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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

Live Reaction to: PAC-MAN IN SMASH 4!

By LUDWIG VON KOOPA - Also known as the developer roundtable.

The final Tuesday event for Nintendo and Super Smash Bros. 4... it's... Pac-Man being revealed by Masahiro Sakurai! I'm Nintendork 13 13, Rawk is himself, and Ryudragon29 is a friend of ours but a random guy to you.


We're inclined to agree.
 
Palutena-Kirby? Great. THIS? Ruined.


 Nintendork 13 13 10:13 pm
    IT STARTED
   
     ·  9s
    Masahiro Sakurai, director of Super #SmashBros for #WiiU and Nintendo #3DS just took the stage!
    Let's live-react to each tweet.
    ...Reaction to that?
    ...oh who am I kidding there's nothing.

 RawkHawk2010 10:13 pm
    yay

 Nintendork 13 13 10:14 pm
    So.
    He's on the stage.
    You think he walked in there?
    Or maybe he jumped.

 RawkHawk2010 10:15 pm
    okay I'll count on you to c/p them all

 Nintendork 13 13 10:15 pm
    Yeah.
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  1m
    Pac-Man joins the battle! #SmashBros
    what
    ..............

 RawkHawk2010 10:15 pm
    and hopefully my IMs go through since I'm back on the terrible compeyu
    llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

 Nintendork 13 13 10:15 pm
    did their twitter get hacked

 RawkHawk2010 10:15 pm
    *sigh*

 Nintendork 13 13 10:15 pm
    .......
    NO
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    NO
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    Okay
    Smash 4 sucks

 Nintendork 13 13 10:17 pm
    Sony wins E3
    >_>;

 RawkHawk2010 10:17 pm
    http://i.imgur.com/4NqX0qm.png
    I'VE FOUGHT AGAINST THIS FOR YEARS

 Nintendork 13 13 10:17 pm
    NGGH
    I'VE FOUGHT IT TOO MAN
    I WROTE THAT ARTICLE
    DOES THIS MEAN HILLARY CLINTON WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT?
    AWFUL
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  9s
    Pac-Man has some interesting abilities like throwing fruit and eating power pellets #SmashBros
    THAT'S NOT INTERESTING

 RawkHawk2010 10:19 pm
    http://www.dkvine.com/interactive/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=9291&view=findpost&p=328541
    see my more detailed reaction there

 Nintendork 13 13 10:19 pm
    ...sounds about right
   
     ·  38s
    Mr. Sakurai and some others from Nintendo battle it out using Pac-Man, Mega Man, Mario and Sonic! Who will be victorious? #SmashBros

 RawkHawk2010 10:20 pm
    Sad.
    Really sad.

 Nintendork 13 13 10:20 pm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OVv-J-LXQU

 RawkHawk2010 10:20 pm
    Has it gone over all their heads that Mario is the ONLY one of those not currently a failure?

 Nintendork 13 13 10:20 pm
    relevant video
    I wish Mega Man wasn't.

 Nintendork 13 13 10:22 pm
    depression
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  28s
    After a thrilling fight, Pac-Man came out victorious!
    HE WON TOO?!?!?!!?!?
    SO HE'S OVERPOWERED AND IN?

 RawkHawk2010 10:23 pm
    is this why it's not streamed

 Nintendork 13 13 10:23 pm
    yes

 RawkHawk2010 10:23 pm
    or wasn't announced in a place with an audience

 Nintendork 13 13 10:23 pm
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  now
    Introducing customized fighters! Adjust the fighting style of the characters and use them in “With Friends” mode to duke it out. #SmashBros
    we already know this

 Nintendork 13 13 10:25 pm
    They'd get boo'd so hard at the Invitational.
    According to
    http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u3ds-live-blog/
    this
    Game & Watch is back
   
    Read more at http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u3ds-live-blog/
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  10s
    You can customize a Mii Fighter, from the special attacks, to clothing, hat and faces. Finally put whoever you want into #SmashBros
    Mark Block

 Nintendork 13 13 10:28 pm
    ...Doesn't matter man.
    How'd we get from Palutena
    to garbage?

 RawkHawk2010 10:29 pm
    Guess Smash had to run out of good news eventually.

 Nintendork 13 13 10:30 pm
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  37s
    Mii Fighters and Palutena are different from other characters and have new and unique special attacks! #SmashBros
    Well, must be all of Lady Palutena's powers she showed off.

 RawkHawk2010 10:31 pm
    no one else's special attacks are "new and unique"?
    Well at least that gesture isn't being handed to fucking Pac-Man.

 Nintendork 13 13 10:31 pm
    ....
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  29s
    Mr. Sakurai is now showing amiibo for #SmashBros.

 Nintendork 13 13 10:34 pm
   
     ·  1m
    You can level-up your figure player each time you use it to fight. It can go as high as level 50! #SmashBros
    Level 50!
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  4s
    The figure player actually changes their approach to battle based on its opponent’s fighting tactics. #SmashBros
    Oh hey it has basic conditional statements?
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  now
    Mr. Sakurai plans on collecting ALL the figures for the amiibo platform. Will you? #SmashBros
    uhhhhhh
    ......Well he gets them for free.

 Nintendork 13 13 10:37 pm
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  15s
    Don’t forget that the Nintendo #3DS version of #SmashBros will launch first. Mr. Sakurai is showing off Smash Run.
    At least Smash Run is still good.
    Who the fuck wants to play as Pac-Man during Smash Run?

 Nintendork 13 13 10:39 pm
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  36s
    You can also collect items in Smash Run on #3DS that can be equipped by your character. Each character can equip up to 3 items. #SmashBros
    Uh huh...

 RawkHawk2010 10:43 pm
    Sakurai wanted to make retro Pac-Man, but the standard is PacLand PacMan
   
    Read more at http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u3ds-live-blog/

 Nintendork 13 13 10:43 pm
    ...

 RawkHawk2010 10:44 pm
    Seems to have an attack where he uses the ghosts, throws fruit, and even places a fire hydrant on the ground
   
    Read more at http://nintendoeverything.com/super-smash-bros-for-wii-u3ds-live-blog/
    worst fears realized

 Nintendork 13 13 10:44 pm
    awful
   

 RawkHawk2010 10:44 pm
    they're pulling from games with no significance just to give him moves
    AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL
    I WANT TO FUCKING PUNCH THE COMPUTER FUCK
    IT'S
    THE
    WORST
    FUCKING
    CHARACTER
    I COULD
    THINK
    OIF

 Nintendork 13 13 10:45 pm
    Exactly.

 RawkHawk2010 10:45 pm
    https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/476547936881369088

 Nintendork 13 13 10:45 pm
    Namco code-monkies.

 RawkHawk2010 10:45 pm
    screencap that
    first reply

 Nintendork 13 13 10:45 pm
    dat Iggy Koopa
    48 Favourites
    31 retweets
    He also has a nice Godot background.
   
    Nintendo of America @NintendoAmerica ·  34s
    Thank you so much for following along! We hope you enjoyed hearing all about Super #SmashBros. From Mr. Sakurai.
    SAKURAI WHY

 Nintendork 13 13 10:48 pm
    Oh yeah.
    Rapture, the Mac player, came from Brawl.
    He said it's an improvement from Brawl, but it still needs more work.

 RawkHawk2010 10:49 pm
    kill me

 Nintendork 13 13 10:49 pm
    Pac-Man is in.
    Rawk isn't.
    How do you feel?

 RawkHawk2010 10:49 pm
    Well my Mii is in.

 RawkHawk2010 10:51 pm
    http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/Soaprman/imagefests/pacman2-3/pacman2-3-132.png
    that's a move

 Nintendork 13 13 10:51 pm
    What the fuck even is that game?
    It looks like something we'd make.

 Nintendork 13 13 10:54 pm
    um
    Is that all NoA Twitter is gonna say?

 RawkHawk2010 10:54 pm
    guess so

 Nintendork 13 13 10:56 pm
    ...ugggh
    Suddenly I'm like...
    ...less happy about this game.

 RawkHawk2010 10:56 pm
    writing up a post

 Nintendork 13 13 11:03 pm
    ...

 RawkHawk2010 11:03 pm
    when do we see pictures

 Nintendork 13 13 11:04 pm
    dunno

 RawkHawk2010 11:04 pm
    Kind of ready to see just how ugly this son of a bitch is

 Nintendork 13 13 11:05 pm
    Q/A??
    A competitive Smash player is trying to challenge Sakurai to see if he can win and help balance the game. Sakurai asked "have you ever made a game?"
    uh oh

 Nintendork 13 13 11:08 pm
    GameXplain ‏@GameXplain 2m Most characters decided at start of development including pacman and Greninja, predating X and Y's release
    No Miis on With Anyone, so that's good.
    So is Meta Knight not back?
    JIGGLYPUFF?
    FALCON?
    I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE

 RawkHawk2010 11:12 pm
    http://smashbros-miiverse.com/images/char/h150/pac_man.png
    KILL ME

 Nintendork 13 13 11:12 pm
    ...

 RawkHawk2010 11:13 pm
    THOSE REMOVABLE ARMS
    THOSE EYES

 Nintendork 13 13 11:13 pm
    ...
   

 RawkHawk2010 11:14 pm
    thoughts?

 Nintendork 13 13 11:15 pm
    It looks like old art.
    That exists already.
    Showed footage of Smash Invitational
   
    Sakurai enjoyed watching the tourney and was nervous that it might crash

 Nintendork 13 13 11:17 pm
    He predicted that Zero Suit Samus would win
   
    He is also going back to Japan tomorrow to continue to work on Smash
    Sakurai master predictor.
    Or liar.
    ugh
    Am I waiting on something?
    Or are we done?

 RawkHawk2010 11:19 pm
    yes
    we are waiting
    for the site to update

 Nintendork 13 13 11:19 pm
    For Pac-man?

 RawkHawk2010 11:19 pm
    yes

 Nintendork 13 13 11:19 pm
    So we'll wait for the POTD?

 RawkHawk2010 11:19 pm
    They can't leave us hangin'!
    um

 Nintendork 13 13 11:19 pm
    It updated with Palutena and Miis.

 RawkHawk2010 11:19 pm
    It should happen in a few minutes.

 RawkHawk2010 11:20 pm
    They're not gonna reveal Pac-Man and make us wait for hours.

 Nintendork 13 13 11:20 pm
    Yes they would.

 RawkHawk2010 11:20 pm
    what precedent has been set for that

 Nintendork 13 13 11:20 pm
    None.
    You have no precedent either.
    Roundtable ended.

 RawkHawk2010 11:21 pm
    aight
    should be any minute now
    *waits*

 Nintendork 13 13 11:21 pm
    I think Sakurai needs to get to Japan first.

 Nintendork 13 13 11:25 pm
    ...
    Updated yet?

 RawkHawk2010 11:27 pm
    Absolutely dreadful. Just like I feared, insignificant gutter trash is fueling Pacman's design and moveset because classic Pac-Man (the reason anyone cares about him) was Assist Trophy-material at best. And this wouldn't be so bad if Namco earlier this year didn't fuck up their one opportunity to get Wii U/3DS owners familiar with some of the lesser-known titles (aka the ones iconic of the Pac-Man in Smash), but so much for setting any lofty expectations.
   
    I've written about this at length on this forum, but I honestly can't think of a single (possible) character I'd rather have less. If this hideous pizza-looking piece of shit gets in over K. Rool, I...I just don't even know.
    my post

 Nintendork 13 13 11:28 pm
    ...
    Sounds about right.

 RawkHawk2010 11:28 pm
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-2.jpg

 Nintendork 13 13 11:28 pm
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-1.jpg
    awful
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-3.jpg
    ZSS looks good
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-4.jpg
    bad bad bad bad
    Assist Trophy shit
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-5.jpg
    Kirby is ruined
    dat nose
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-6.jpg
    dumb
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-7.jpg
    what even is this

 Nintendork 13 13 11:30 pm
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-8.jpg
    KILL IT PIT
    KILL IT
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-9.jpg
    invading smash run
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-10.jpg
    bad stage
    Well.
    ...Worst character in the series.
    I'd rather have another Sonic character than this.
    (...not by much though.)

 Nintendork 13 13 11:32 pm
    Well.
    There's all the pictures.
    Now what am I waiting for?

 RawkHawk2010 11:33 pm
    http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/pac-man/screen-7.jpg
    what the fuck even is this

 Nintendork 13 13 11:33 pm
    That's what I asked!

 RawkHawk2010 11:33 pm
    Is that his STAGE?

 Nintendork 13 13 11:33 pm
    No.
    His stage is screen-10
    Maybe this is his final smash??
    I'm gonna watch Palutena's reveal to feel better.

 Ryudragon29 11:36 pm
    it's from Pac Land
    although, I don't know what that is

 Nintendork 13 13 11:37 pm
    X.x
    Poor Lloyd Irving?

 RawkHawk2010 11:37 pm
    http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/pac-man.html

 Nintendork 13 13 11:38 pm
    red

 RawkHawk2010 11:38 pm
    oh goodness

 Nintendork 13 13 11:38 pm
    blue
    yellow

 RawkHawk2010 11:38 pm
    a vdieo

 Nintendork 13 13 11:38 pm
    watching
    black hand
    erm

 Nintendork 13 13 11:38 pm
    ...That doesn't mean anyth-...
    whaaaaaaat
    yellow circle
    HUNGERS FOR BATTLE
    Where's this music from?
    ...Pac-Man has music?
    I guess that is his stage.
    Don't pick that shit when we play this game.
    GAME AND WATCH
    1980
    ...Well Game and Watch isn't actually confirmed by that
    Is he?
    Awful video.
    How can anyone be excited about this?

 Nintendork 13 13 11:40 pm
    http://www.smashbros.com/us/images/character/pac-man/illust-modal.jpg
    Sonic 16-bit cheating
    http://www.smashbros.com/update/images/daily.jpg?date=1402458101996
    pic of the day
    Ugly character design.
    My hype for the game has dropped.

 Nintendork 13 13 11:42 pm
    ...Still going to Best Buy though.

 RawkHawk2010 11:43 pm
    there's a giant pac-man statue in my wal-mart

Nintendork 13 13 11:43 pm
    Old Wal-mart or new Wal-mart?

 RawkHawk2010 11:43 pm
    new
    this music isn't even good

 Nintendork 13 13 11:44 pm
    Of course it's not.
    Pac-man doesn't have music.

 RawkHawk2010 11:44 pm
    What the fuck is he even doing at 0:46?

 Nintendork 13 13 11:45 pm
    Stepping on Yoshi
    Unless you mean the radio waves
    ...
    I dunno where that comes from.
    He reminds me of Frogger.
    In his 3D games.

 RawkHawk2010 11:45 pm
    on the bright side
    at least his design isn't the new one

 Nintendork 13 13 11:46 pm
    ...

 RawkHawk2010 11:46 pm
    ...
    Y'know what? I've had a change of heart.
    This is something I've wanted since 2008. That trailer, that design, that moveset, it's all coming back to me. Fuck K. Rool. Fuck him. He ain't getting in, and I'll begrudgingly accept that. I'm jumping ship on you all. Fuck all of the people who are whining about Pac's inclusion.
   
    Pac-Man is my main in Smash For and that's that. As much as I hate to say this, Masahiro's got my money.
   
    If you can't beat them, join them.

 Nintendork 13 13 11:46 pm
    Not much of a consolation when his design is bad anyway?
    .............

 Nintendork 13 13 11:46 pm
    Stop pasting posts from DKVine.
    They're awful.
    Is there some way to connect this to Obama?
    And ruining the world?

 Nintendork 13 13 11:49 pm
    We had Melee and Brawl while Bush was in office
    and now Obama is here and we have this?
    ...nah.

 RawkHawk2010 11:51 pm
    yeah nahg

Nintendork 13 13 11:52 pm
    Well, we gotta end this on some signature KoopaTV note.
    Maybe the gays want Pac-Man in so Pac-Man can suck on their dicks?
    GIVE ME SOMETHING

Nintendork 13 13 11:56 pm
    Oh
    I got something.
    Eric Cantor lost his primary fight.
    (The majority leader in the House of Reps)

 Nintendork 13 13 11:59 pm
    To a Tea Party dude.
    That'll be fun.

 Nintendork 13 13 12:06 am
    Is this confirmation that the Donkey Kong in SSB is actually young Cranky Kong?
    ...
    - gamefaqs

 RawkHawk2010 12:06 am
    this is the last thing i need right now

 Nintendork 13 13 12:07 am
    because
    1981
    pointed to dk

 RawkHawk2010 12:07 am
    I thought I'd become more accepting after seeing him in motion, but good god this video is awful. The music, the stages...how can anyone but the most diehard Pac-Man fans be excited for this?
   
    Seriously, that music? Is that the most iconic/adored song Pac-Man has? And indicative of what else Pac-Man will be bringing to this game?
    posted that
    see
    I don't have that big of a problem with pac-man himself
    his mannerisms are kind of cute

 Nintendork 13 13 12:08 am
    (I do)

 RawkHawk2010 12:08 am
    it's all this shit he's bringing with him

 Nintendork 13 13 12:08 am
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sRiFoJMNTU

 RawkHawk2010 12:08 am
    That hideous looking stage from Pac-Land or whatever
    those items

 Nintendork 13 13 12:08 am
    wanna watch pac-land

 RawkHawk2010 12:08 am
    that smash-run enemy
    the music
    awful
    k
    some of it
    im tired as fuck
    is there no music

 Nintendork 13 13 12:09 am
    Ghosts driving golf carts.

 RawkHawk2010 12:09 am
    0:43
    oh god

 Nintendork 13 13 12:09 am
    ghosts on ufos
    ghosts on pogo-sticks
    BREAK TIME sign
    It's like Wii-era Nintendo in 1984.

 RawkHawk2010 12:10 am
    i don't know how much of this i can take

 Nintendork 13 13 12:10 am
    Telling you to take a break in the game.

 RawkHawk2010 12:10 am
    the sound is grating

 Nintendork 13 13 12:10 am
    Well this is where his moveset came from.

 RawkHawk2010 12:10 am
    and the stage

 Nintendork 13 13 12:11 am
    I got to his stage
    with the creepy woman

 RawkHawk2010 12:11 am
    I wonder if i should try to purposely keep pac-man locked

 Nintendork 13 13 12:11 am
    And not complete Sakurai checklist?

 RawkHawk2010 12:11 am
    2:40
    there's that shit
    i quit

 Nintendork 13 13 12:12 am
    I feel like vomiting

 Nintendork 13 13 12:12 am
    I don't know if that's because of the game
    or because I'm been in front of a computer all da

 RawkHawk2010 12:13 am
    Dude....shut up. You're an asshole. Or at least acting like one. A major one.

 Nintendork 13 13 12:14 am
    So did Sakurai come up with the moves himself
    or did Namco give it to him?
    Like, did Sakurai sit and play through this shit?

 RawkHawk2010 12:15 am
    lol

 Ryudragon29 12:15 am
    Sakurai does all the game by himself

 Nintendork 13 13 12:15 am
    skipping to ending

 Ryudragon29 12:15 am
    and are yo ucalling Pacman shit?

 Nintendork 13 13 12:15 am
    Yes
    Watching Pac-Land

 Ryudragon29 12:15 am
    I'm not going to scroll up

 Nintendork 13 13 12:15 am
    Looks awful.
    Pac-Man died

 Ryudragon29 12:16 am
    Why would I watch Pac Land?

 Nintendork 13 13 12:16 am
    I'm watching it.
    Pac-Man is riding smug on a ufo ghost.

 Ryudragon29 12:16 am
    It's the old Pacman in Smash

 Nintendork 13 13 12:16 am
    I'll screenshot it.

 Ryudragon29 12:16 am
    not the terrifying Ghostly Adventure one

 Nintendork 13 13 12:16 am
    It's where his fire hydrant shit comes from.

 Nintendork 13 13 12:17 am
    Adobe Flash plugin crashed before I got to the ending.
    Well, that's that.

 RawkHawk2010 12:17 am
    Listen to Man-Frog, Rawk. You're being really fucking childish right now. And I'll even admit I was childish with most of the newcomers. Pac-Man is thefucking mascot of all mascots. He was Mario before Mario even got his name. This was the perfect time to have him in a crossover, let alone reveal him. The trailer even highlights the greats coming together. All of the anger and spite I had slowly melted away and it felt bad, but satisfying. I wanted Pac-Man more than K. Rool or any other Nintendo character back in 11th Grade. Now, my 16-year-old self's wish came true. In two forms. Honestly, I can't be mad anymore.
   

 Nintendork 13 13 12:17 am
    No.
    They're wrong.
    If you in KoopaTV land want to know why, look at my Pac-Man-Hillary Clinton article I'll attach at the bottom.
    ...I'm ending this.
    Going to sleep.
    GOING TO BEST BUY LATER

 RawkHawk2010 12:18 am
    aight

 Ryudragon29 12:19 am
    Well, it's true that Pac-Man existed before Mario and was hugely influential

 Nintendork 13 13 12:19 am
    But not influential to Nintendo itself.

 Ryudragon29 12:19 am
    but he's not the mascot of the mascot lol

 Nintendork 13 13 12:19 am
    When people who don't play videogames think of videogames
    They think of Pac-Man.
    ...Or Grand Theft Auto or something.
    Smash isn't trying to appeal to THOSE people.

 Ryudragon29 12:20 am
    When people who don't play videogames think of video games, they think we're playing Nintendo

 Nintendork 13 13 12:20 am
    Videogame fans don't give a shit about Pac-Man.
    (Well, I'M playing Nintendo.)


Ryudragon29 12:21 am
    I loved Pac-Man before his games turned into shit

 RawkHawk2010 12:21 am
    If we're going to have a Pac Man stage we need a Championship Edition DX stage.
   
    Man-Frog kindly get off Rawk's ass. He's just saying what needs to be said.

 Ryudragon29 12:21 am
    and when they decided to give him a new look

 RawkHawk2010 12:21 am
    People on here annoy me a lot, like Planet Cool and I.M. Gibbon. but one thing I can at least give them is that they're positive, upbeat people who at least have nice things to say and talk about what they actually like.
   
    Rawk on the other hand is so full of unnecessary bile it set me off. Why is this allowed to happen? I thought the overarching goal for this place is to not look like a festering hate pit.

 Ryudragon29 12:21 am
    Championship Edition DX is a great game


 Nintendork 13 13 12:24 am
    (and so they argued into the night)

Screenshot from Pac-Land. Pac-Man smugly turns "High Score" into a matter of height, not count.

Wednesday is Best Buy day. Stay tuned to KoopaTV for all the latest details. Believe me, they'll be later than someone's.


We came off of talking about the Smash Invitational. Go see those reactions here.
Ludwig on why Pac-Man shouldn't be in the game.
Rawk on why Pac-Man shouldn't be in the game.
For the roundtable the day after this one, look here.
Pac-Man shouldn't be in the game: An article written after the game came out!

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    1. Skill? Nah, he's just unfocused garbage.

      What if Sakurai says, "oh we have enough round sphere characters, let's cut Puff."

      UGGGH

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