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Wednesday, June 14, 2017

Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational Live Reactions!

By LUDWIG VON KOOPA - Also, the beginning of Day 2 of Nintendo Treehouse Live!

HOWDY FOLKS! Did you get rest? No? Oh well. We didn't either.

Either way, we're back (see the whole E3 Weeks 2017 Schedule here), and this time, for some Pokkén Tournament DX action. First from Nintendo Treehouse Live and then with an 8-person tournament featuring icky YouTubers and actual fighting game community people!

(12:59:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Good Vortex is here.

(12:59:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Maybe he burned.

(1:00:21 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: whoa it just suddenly started

(1:00:42 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Pokkén Tournament DX.

(1:01:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Ishihara is back.

(1:01:31 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I know Pokemon fans who are just learning what Pokken is.

(1:01:34 PM) (rawkhawk2010) As of yesterday.

(1:01:42 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "you already know the rules"

(1:01:45 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Can't blame them btw.

(1:02:22 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: So I was playing Splatoon this morning and I remembered why I don't play it anymore.

(1:02:33 PM) (rawkhawk2010) We're no strangers to love

You know the rules and so do I

A full commitment's what I'm thinking of

You wouldn't get this from any other guy

(1:02:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Everyone else is Japanese and they're way too intense even in the "casual" Turf War.

(1:02:34 PM) (rawkhawk2010) why

(1:02:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) oh

(1:02:56 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: With perfectly optimised gear.

(1:02:58 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Wait were you saying that or Ishihara?

(1:03:03 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: me

(1:03:07 PM) (rawkhawk2010) oh

(1:03:18 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "you already know the rules" was a Marv-O quote

(1:03:35 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Wasn't paying attention to Pokkén Tournament DX talk.

(1:03:40 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: But they're gonna show gameplay.

(1:03:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nope, Bandai Namco guy gonna say some words.

(1:04:00 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: They have cool shirts.


Pokkén Tournament DX Nintendo Treehouse Live E3 2017 shirts Gengar Suicune Charizard Namco Bandai Pokémon
Left-to-right: Black shirt, black shirt, GENGAR shirt, SUICUNE shirt, CHARIZARD shirt, black shirt.


(1:04:09 PM) (rawkhawk2010) What if we're watching the wrong stream and this is E3 2016?

(1:04:25 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Decidueye didn't exist yet.

(1:05:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Apparently, Shadow Mewtwo is worse than regular Mewtwo.

(1:05:10 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Did this game ever get a story?

(1:05:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I...think so?

(1:05:48 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Thalia Beach featuring a Dugtrio sandcastle.

(1:06:28 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Does the 3D phase and 2D phase thing come from Tekken?

(1:06:48 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) WAAAAHH, I fell asleep!

(1:06:52 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) What have i missed?

(1:06:57 PM) (rawkhawk2010) ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

(1:06:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: You fell asleep before it began?!

(1:07:16 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) Well I was napping beforehand.

(1:07:17 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: They're playing Pokkén Tournament DX and the Japanese dudes have cool shirts.

(1:07:43 PM) (rawkhawk2010) .........

(1:07:45 PM) (rawkhawk2010) That sucked.

(1:07:59 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: They're explaining how to play rather than fighting.

(1:08:08 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: The humans in the background look like cardboard.

(1:08:11 PM) (rawkhawk2010) and the game doesn't allow for that, apparently.

(1:08:16 PM) (rawkhawk2010) No time for explaining.

(1:08:20 PM) (rawkhawk2010) This is why timers are bad!

(1:08:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Timers in fighting games are good.

(1:08:38 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I object.

(1:08:42 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I like stall.

(1:09:17 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: You can stall with timers and that means your stalling actually has an objective and goal.

(1:09:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Stalling without a timer is just being a bad person.

(1:10:02 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I like requiring the opponent to succeed in catching me to win.

(1:10:05 PM) (rawkhawk2010) which is how pokemon works

(1:10:13 PM) (rawkhawk2010) at least until Struggle

(1:10:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Do you like the infinite Slowbro thing?

(1:10:38 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yes

(1:10:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: wtf

(1:10:50 PM) (rawkhawk2010) there are ways to be prepared for that

(1:10:57 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: This is why I don't want to play Pokémon with you.

Pokkén Tournament DX Decidueye victory win pose
Decidueye win screen.


(1:10:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: <_<

(1:11:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: They claim it's easy to play the game with the itty bitty Joy-Con.

(1:11:55 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yeah sure

(1:11:56 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Table-top mode battle

(1:11:57 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: but

(1:12:06 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...it's hard for the audience to see wot's going on.

(1:12:11 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...so they're going back to the TV.

(1:12:13 PM) (rawkhawk2010) table-top mode will ruin your eyes

(1:12:28 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Any more than playing a GBA?

(1:12:35 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yes

(1:12:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) cuz the gba is close to you

(1:12:58 PM) (rawkhawk2010) that coffee table isn't close to them

(1:13:13 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: You're not supposed to play games close to your eyes.

(1:13:34 PM) (rawkhawk2010) then why do portables exist

(1:13:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: That's why portables have always had a low market share.

(1:14:11 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I don't like Charizard's voice in this.

(1:14:20 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I don't like Charizard, period.

(1:14:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: GO LUCARIO!

(1:14:34 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Here he sounds exactly like Bowser.

(1:14:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: The Lucario player is incompetent. <_<

(1:15:20 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: 1 HP

(1:15:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Lucario somehow won!

Pokkén Tournament DX Lucario versus Charizard fight cool finishing blow
Lucario somehow managed to win! And now we discuss Lucario in the log.


(1:16:03 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I wish Lucario's Aura mechanic in Smash was

(1:16:03 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: uh

(1:16:18 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...in any other Pokémon product.

(1:16:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Why doesn't Lucario have a unique Ability or something?

(1:17:31 PM) (rawkhawk2010) So Lucario showed no capacity for that ever and Sakurai just made it up?

(1:17:36 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Yeah.

(1:18:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Lucario's standard abilities are Inner Focus (prevents being flinched) and Steadfast (raises Speed when flinched).

(1:18:23 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Which do nothing for Lucario's flavour and are kind of contradictory.

(1:18:33 PM) (rawkhawk2010) the latter sorta lines up with it

(1:18:59 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Lucario's Hidden Ability is Justified (raise Attack when hit by a Dark move) and Mega Lucario's Ability is Adaptability (STAB attacks are multiplied by 2x)

(1:19:00 PM) (rawkhawk2010) In Smash Lucario flinches every time he's hit.

(1:19:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: which also don't do anything.

(1:19:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Yeah but everyone in Smash flinches when they're hit.

(1:19:19 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Because to not flinch you have to have super armor.

(1:19:35 PM) (rawkhawk2010) And so Lucario gets faster.

(1:19:37 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Because hitstun is a game mechanic.

(1:19:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: But Lucario doesn't get faster.

(1:19:48 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: In Smash.

(1:20:01 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I thought the recovery did.

(1:20:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Extreme Speed goes farther.

(1:20:12 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Not faster.

(1:20:19 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Oh I thought it did both.

(1:20:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And then Lucario has really weird falling mechanics after Extreme Speed.

(1:20:45 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And just loses almost all horizontal air movement.

(1:20:48 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I saw Lapras.

(1:21:03 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: There'sa Wobbuffet lying on a bench.

(1:21:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: They're promoting mobile trash.

(1:21:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Magikarp Jump and Pokémon GO.

(1:21:27 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Are we ever gonna play that?

(1:21:31 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: No.

(1:21:35 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: well

(1:21:36 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I'm not.

(1:21:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I might should.

(1:22:15 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I want Audrey and Teresa back.

(1:22:17 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I want to know what the Whimsical Cheer Skill is.

(1:22:28 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I have mixed feelings on Audrey. <_<

(1:22:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I can't get over her love for that loser, Chrom. >.<

(1:23:47 PM) (rawkhawk2010) BY THE WAY

(1:24:02 PM) (rawkhawk2010) according to the devs, Dragon Ball FighterZ is "20% complete."

(1:24:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...that's...uh... wot's its release date?

(1:24:31 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I feel like we heard "Early 2018."

(1:24:38 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...>_>

(1:25:01 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Anyway, the Pokkén dudes say they focused on making the action look really smooth and cool and 60 fps so even if you don't know about fighting games work

(1:25:06 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: you'll like watching.

(1:25:07 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Stage: The Reggie Ruins

(1:25:12 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ....I think they did a good job.

(1:25:14 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Yeah.

(1:25:41 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: The star of last year's E3, Rotom, is a support Pokémon.

(1:25:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: The Registeel statue is just kinda stuck.

(1:26:05 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: SHUCKLE

(1:26:14 PM) (rawkhawk2010) What would life be like if Reggie quit Nintendo and went to Sony ala Greta with Fox and MSNBC?

(1:26:29 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I barely saw Shuckle.

Pokkén Tournament DX Regi Ruins Shuckle background Blaziken results menu
Shuckle is hiding under Blaziken's crotch.


(1:26:36 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Did you screencap that?

(1:26:38 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Yes.

(1:26:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yay

(1:27:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: So the only member of the Reggie-Miyamoto-Iwata Trinity left would be

(1:27:11 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: uh

(1:27:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Miyamoto?

(1:27:22 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: That feels like James McCloud's Star Fox.

(1:27:24 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Only barely at this rate.

(1:27:27 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Iwata is James McCloud

(1:27:30 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Reggie is Pigma

(1:27:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: and Miyamoto is Peppy.

(1:27:52 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I kinda want Reggie to run for president.

(1:28:11 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Was he born in America?

(1:28:47 PM) (rawkhawk2010) maybe

(1:28:50 PM) (rawkhawk2010) http://i.imgur.com/krTRlw3.jpg

(1:29:03 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I like the music here.

(1:29:30 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Poor Darkrai.

(1:29:37 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I've heard this before when listening to the soundtrack, and it was basically the only song worth remembering.

(1:30:01 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: So DX has 3 on 3 battles.

(1:30:25 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Was that Shadow Sneak or Sucker Punch?

(1:30:35 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Where he re-appeared behind Suicune?

(1:30:39 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Sneak.

(1:31:11 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I remember my HeartGold Gengar.

(1:31:18 PM) (rawkhawk2010) His name was Killer G.

(1:31:38 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Croagunk.

(1:31:42 PM) (rawkhawk2010)  And had a defense-hindering nature and like 1 Defense IV.

(1:32:01 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Croagunk got promoted from a support Pokémon.

(1:32:18 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And can double-jump and evade attacks.

(1:32:31 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: But it can't avoid this Mega Gengar.

(1:32:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: rip

(1:32:49 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Croagunk looks like the Pichu of Pokken.

(1:32:55 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: lol

(1:33:10 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I'd play as him.

(1:33:27 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Empoleon is an HM Slave in this game.

(1:34:12 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Empoleon pretending to be an Ice type too.

(1:34:15 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Did Scizor just use String Shot?

(1:34:46 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Scizor just flew up to Empoleon's face and pushed.

(1:34:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Jump down to show floor for the INVITATIONAL.

(1:35:05 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Should that be in the same log as this?

(1:35:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: 'cause it's the same game?

(1:35:24 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yea

(1:35:27 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: 'kay.

(1:35:30 PM) (rawkhawk2010) This log would be awful otherwise.

(1:35:36 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational!

(1:35:46 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: 2017 Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational, to be specific.

(1:35:51 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: 8 YouTube and Twitch personalities.

(1:35:57 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Those dudes switched locations pretty damn quick.

(1:36:03 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Is this pre-recorded?

(1:36:08 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Jordan Kent, Vikki Kitty, and D1.

(1:36:08 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: no

(1:36:18 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "Host, Braixen Boss, Gengar Guru"

(1:36:26 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I know D1 loves Gengar.

(1:36:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Croagunk, Scizor, Darkrai, Empoleon, Decidueye

(1:36:58 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) lol, "Why should I buy this again?!" justifications.

(1:37:07 PM) (rawkhawk2010) What if D1 had been a 2016 debate moderator?

(1:37:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: (Three of the five added dudes are Gen 4!)

(1:38:01 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Dude.

(1:38:12 PM) (rawkhawk2010) That woman reminds me of someone from off of the Fox Business  channel.


(1:38:14 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: lol

(1:38:16 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Tell me who I'm thinking of.

(1:38:25 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: uuhhhhhhhhh oh I know

(1:38:26 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: um

(1:38:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: The big Trump fan?

(1:38:48 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: (They're bashing the YouTube personalities that are going to be rekt by Twitch people)

(1:38:56 PM) (rawkhawk2010) http://i.imgur.com/resm9tQ.jpg

(1:38:57 PM) (rawkhawk2010) ^ HER

(1:39:05 PM) (rawkhawk2010) They're the same person.

(1:39:06 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: MATPAT FROM GAME THEORY ugh

(1:39:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Maria Bartiromo?

(1:39:23 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yes

(1:40:03 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And his wife.

(1:40:11 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...are they...against one another?


2017 Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational Bracket Ken MatPat Allister Nairo Justin Wong
Ludwig was rooting for JD Witherspoon and Nairo, and no one else watching cared enough to have a preference.


(1:40:22 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) Looks like it.

(1:40:33 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I guess I'll root for his wife.

(1:40:52 PM) (rawkhawk2010) unfortunate wording

(1:41:00 PM) (rawkhawk2010) also maybe this is spousal therapy

(1:41:13 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: VikkiKitty says whoever loses does the dishes tonight.

(1:41:35 PM) (rawkhawk2010) So this tournament is to establish who wears the pants?

(1:41:42 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: MatPat just destroyed her.

(1:41:51 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "You can either be victorious or happy."

(1:42:05 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) This can only end in divorce.

(1:42:11 PM) (rawkhawk2010) lol

(1:42:20 PM) (rawkhawk2010) wtf

(1:42:35 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I thought that blimp in the background said "TRUMP"

Pokkén Tournament DX Scizor versus Empoleon MatPat Stephanie
Well, it has five letters.

(1:42:41 PM) (rawkhawk2010) because the color scheme of it is the exact same

(1:42:45 PM) (rawkhawk2010) as the official trump logo

(1:42:46 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...no it's just some incoherent made-up stuff.

(1:43:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "exactly 223 to be exact"

(1:43:07 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Even the red at the bottom.

(1:43:22 PM) (rawkhawk2010) http://i.imgur.com/VIIZwud.jpg

(1:43:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I guess I'll screenshot the blimp.

(1:44:13 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) lol, a Trump blimp flying over a wind farm!

(1:44:15 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) #FakeJobs

(1:44:54 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: and after I say that it doesn't show up.

(1:44:58 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Is this tournament gonna have more seeding?

(1:45:03 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I already screened it.

(1:45:07 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: oh

(1:45:17 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Okay so now what happens?

(1:45:24 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: How do these teams work?

(1:45:42 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister vs. Ken

(1:45:53 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Ken was on Mrs. Pat's team.

(1:46:00 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister was on MatPat's team.

(1:46:11 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Ken is being destroyed.

(1:46:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Ken keeps shaking his head.

(1:46:33 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "I don't know what I'm doing!"

(1:46:45 PM) (rawkhawk2010) The boundary should break if the opponent collides into it during the finishing blow

(1:46:52 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Dammit Ken.

(1:46:53 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: KEN COMBO HIM

(1:47:01 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Well that was quick.

(1:47:07 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: wait wot

(1:47:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: VikkiKitty says Scizor won but clearly not.

(1:47:32 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I dunno what happened.

(1:47:34 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) This seems to get more and more confusing.

(1:48:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nintendo's tournament organising is done for gimmicks, not as a good example of running a tour.

(1:49:00 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Is the background noise real people cheering

(1:49:03 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: or the game?

(1:49:20 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD Witherspoon and Nairo vs. Black Nerd Comedy and Justin Wong

(1:49:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I know who Nairo and Justin Wong are

(1:49:40 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: but I don't know who the YouTubers are.

(1:50:28 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Black Nerd Comedy

(1:50:33 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD Witherspoon is dabbing

(1:50:34 PM) (rawkhawk2010) ...dunno who's who.

(1:50:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) They're all black nerds.

(1:50:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: You're looking at Black Nerd now

(1:50:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: That's JD

(1:51:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: (I know who is who based on who their partners are)

(1:51:13 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I heard most of the participants here have barely even played Pokken.

(1:51:20 PM) (rawkhawk2010) And were just picked cuz Nintendo knew them from Smash.

(1:51:27 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: well

(1:51:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...I know that's true for Ken.

(1:51:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nairo might've played Pokkén I dunno.

(1:52:05 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I feel bad for the actual Pokken afficianados that got sidelined.

(1:52:06 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "Croagunk is a very silly character" with "random moves"

(1:52:16 PM) (rawkhawk2010) in favor of Nintendo's grandfather claused inner-circle

(1:52:23 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I don't know if there are actual Pokkén afficionados.

(1:52:41 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: MY impression was that Pokkén Tournament fans were a small subset of Smash fans.

(1:52:41 PM) (rawkhawk2010) lol

(1:52:47 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) Why Croagunk and not Toxicroak???

(1:52:56 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Because Croagunk already had a character model.

(1:53:01 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: 'cause he's a support Pokémon.

(1:53:06 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) Bleghh.

(1:53:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And Croagunk has recognition from the anime as Brock's main Sinnoh Pokémon.

(1:53:23 PM) (rawkhawk2010) All I ever hear Smashers do is bash traditional fighters.

(1:53:29 PM) (rawkhawk2010) cuz the latter aren't creative.

(1:53:34 PM) (rawkhawk2010) with controls

(1:53:37 PM) (rawkhawk2010) which is true

(1:53:42 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...I don't hear that, but traditional fighters bash Smash.

(1:53:51 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Or bashed. They do it less now than they used to.

(1:54:23 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: They don't consider Smash to be a part of the fighting game community.

(1:54:36 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: So that's why Smash fans are so insistent that Smash is a fighting game.

(1:54:44 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: It's a matter of identity!

(1:54:49 PM) (rawkhawk2010) My only source is the smashboards.com Show Me Your News podcast.

(1:54:59 PM) (rawkhawk2010) which i listened to when i was 16 for some reason

(1:55:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: So a decade ago?

(1:55:18 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yes

(1:55:19 PM) (rawkhawk2010) and dude

(1:55:24 PM) (rawkhawk2010) who is the guy with the raised hair?

(1:55:27 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Is that JD?

(1:55:33 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: uhhhhh

(1:55:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) He's playing right now.

(1:55:42 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Oh

(1:55:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Black Nerd has darker skin

(1:55:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: than JD

(1:55:54 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And is fatter.

(1:56:00 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Does that help?

(1:56:03 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yes

(1:56:33 PM) (rawkhawk2010) JD is identical to TB in his mannerisms.

(1:56:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ya that's JD

(1:56:52 PM) (rawkhawk2010) when JD was pointing at the screen and screaming with enthusiasm.

(1:57:05 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD talking to the camera for some reason.

(1:57:16 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Except I assume TB has far-less self-control.

(1:57:30 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Because, well, obviously.

(1:57:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Apparently after JD was "talking smack" to Black Nerd Comedy, he actually got confidence and won.

(1:58:03 PM) (rawkhawk2010) (For all reading TB was my embodiment-of-human-id roommate.)

(1:58:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: (Since when do you use terms like "id"?)

(1:58:34 PM) (rawkhawk2010) (the only roommate left after all the other ones were taken)

(1:58:37 PM) (rawkhawk2010) since always?

(1:58:47 PM) (rawkhawk2010) When have I not used it?

(1:59:00 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...well I know you've never used "superego"

(1:59:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: or "ego"

(1:59:09 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I would say "search the log" except it's gonna be kind of hard to search "id"

(1:59:13 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...yeah.

(2:00:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nairo very strong into third game.

(2:00:20 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Is Justin Wong gonna use his Burst?

(2:00:23 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: There we go.

(2:00:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nairo wins!

(2:00:51 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: What happens if Nairo lost

(2:00:54 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: but his partner won?

(2:01:13 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: In these  matches both the set of teammates won.

(2:01:33 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: D1 implying Mewtwo is overpowered.

(2:02:07 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: VikkiKitty has a weird laugh. :x

(2:03:18 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Finals Best 3 of 5

(2:04:15 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: The YouTube personalities "are like watching your child walk."

(2:04:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I loooove the implications that YouTubers are frauds.

(2:04:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) lol

(2:04:55 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Go Team Nairo!

(2:05:00 PM) (rawkhawk2010) ...

(2:05:12 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...What, I'm not going to root for GAME THEORY.

(2:05:14 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Why were JD and the other guy trying to do the Fusion Dance?

JD Witherspoon Pokkén Tournament DX invitational talking trash smack
JD's fusion dance?

(2:05:27 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Hoping Dragon Ball FighterZ goes to Switch?

(2:05:31 PM) (rawkhawk2010) lol

(2:05:39 PM) (rawkhawk2010) JD looks like he'd be into Dragon Ball.

(2:05:45 PM) (rawkhawk2010) DBZ at least.

(2:05:51 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Maybe not DB not Z.

(2:06:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Tellur Town (Autumn)

(2:06:21 PM) (rawkhawk2010) These location names remind me of Pokemon Shuffle's.

(2:06:26 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: There's a cutie Tauros in the background.

(2:06:32 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Where it's clear they're running out of words.

(2:07:04 PM) (rawkhawk2010) which supports my suggestion of a reboot for all human language.

(2:07:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD is putting more effort into trash talking during the match than playing.

(2:07:45 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: These audience members...

(2:07:47 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Some was wearing Vegeta's armor in the background.

Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational 2017 E3 Nintendo Kit Vegeta audience
Kit of Nintendo Minute is also in the background here.

(2:07:54 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Speaking of Dragon Ball Fighterz

(2:08:00 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Someone*

(2:08:04 PM) (rawkhawk2010) FighterZ*

(2:08:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD is being destroyed.

(2:08:43 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Did the commentator say "Gotta release the coons at this point!"?

(2:08:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD got 0-2'd.

(2:08:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: lol

(2:08:54 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Cuz he didn't say "hounds"

(2:09:11 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: OH

(2:09:15 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Best 3 of 5.

(2:09:17 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Everyone forgot.

(2:09:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Including me.

(2:09:32 PM) (rawkhawk2010) So this is the final match?

(2:09:38 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Between the YouTubers.

(2:09:48 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: If MatPat wins.

(2:09:54 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Which seems likely.

(2:11:08 PM) (rawkhawk2010) this dude sucks

(2:11:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Can JD win?

(2:11:45 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...no

(2:11:53 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: OH SHIT

(2:12:12 PM) (rawkhawk2010) what if a physical brawl broke out on stage?

(2:12:19 PM) (rawkhawk2010) has that ever happened at a smash tournament?

(2:12:32 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: uhhhhhhhhh yes

(2:12:36 PM) (rawkhawk2010) lol

(2:12:39 PM) (rawkhawk2010) i wanna see it

(2:12:45 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: You've linked it

(2:12:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I think

(2:12:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: With that weird fat girl

(2:13:08 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...anyway

(2:13:12 PM) (rawkhawk2010) i don't recall that.

(2:13:31 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: forget it I dunno if that was Smash


Nairo JD Witherspoon team Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational
Let's look at Nairo and JD instead of Ludwig's babbling.


(2:13:33 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: <.<

(2:14:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Anyway, Regi Ruins.

(2:14:13 PM) (rawkhawk2010) where's vortex

(2:14:23 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...I dunno.

(2:14:42 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) Pokkén Tournament used Hypnosis!

(2:14:45 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) Vortex fell asleep!

(2:14:49 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) Zzz

(2:14:56 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Where are Kit and Krysta?

(2:14:57 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: You were asleep before the log started. <.<

(2:15:01 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Don't blame Pokkén.

(2:15:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: In the audience.

(2:15:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: They showed Kit.

(2:15:32 PM) (rawkhawk2010) https://twitter.com/NTDOPowerCouple/status/875050354638864385

(2:16:31 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD finally done losing.

(2:17:06 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nairo vs. Allister

(2:17:17 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister is actually from the Pokkén Tournament community.

(2:17:25 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: (Which is why I don't know who he is)

(2:17:36 PM) (rawkhawk2010) soooooooooo

(2:17:42 PM) (rawkhawk2010) the smasher is gonna lose, then

(2:17:46 PM) (rawkhawk2010) k

(2:17:50 PM) (rawkhawk2010) *doesn't watch*

(2:18:03 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Well

(2:18:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nairo is getting wrecked.

(2:18:18 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister didn't take any damage.

(2:18:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister is apparently not even looking at the screen right now.

(2:19:23 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And Nairo lost.

Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational finals Nairo losing Mewtwo Suicune
Nairo is losing horribly.


(2:20:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Game 2

(2:22:39 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister takes Game 2.

(2:22:44 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: One more game to go.

(2:22:52 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Unless Nairo can actually win something.

(2:23:39 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: whoa Nairo actually is doing well now.

(2:23:39 PM) (rawkhawk2010) well smasher is winning for once

(2:23:49 PM) (rawkhawk2010) but not for long

(2:23:56 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: .......

(2:24:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: yup <_<

(2:24:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: This tournament was rigged. >_>

(2:24:28 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: At least the Splatoon one was fair.

(2:24:33 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) SAD!

(2:25:12 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: WHOA NAIRO

(2:25:19 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: He actually won something.

(2:26:17 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: NAIRO TOOK THE GAME

(2:26:40 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I hope Alistair gets fucked.

(2:26:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "Are we going to see a comeback? I think we're gonna see a comeback!" - VikkiKitty

(2:26:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "...Let's not call it a comeback."

(2:28:02 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nairo won!

(2:28:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: (the round)

(2:28:35 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: But Nairo is being obliterated now.

(2:28:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister took that Round.

(2:28:58 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: This could be the final Round of the tournament if Allister wins.

(2:29:33 PM) (rawkhawk2010) What kind of controllers are these people using?

(2:29:39 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Pro Controllers

(2:29:41 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I think

(2:29:46 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I didn't know white ones existed.

(2:30:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: NAIRO

(2:30:12 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: TOOK THE ROUND

(2:30:15 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: 2-2

Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational Nairo versus Allister Singh Mewtwo Suicune
COOL! Nairo survives!


(2:31:22 PM) (rawkhawk2010) That ain't a pro controller.

(2:31:26 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Looks completely alien.

(2:31:27 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Weird.

(2:31:39 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Future release?

(2:32:04 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Must be some Tekken fighting pad.

(2:32:36 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Nairo about to lose the tour

(2:32:46 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister wins!

(2:32:56 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister and MatPat are the champs.

(2:33:22 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "No participation medals"

(2:33:53 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: JD and Nairo have to politely leave the stage.

(2:34:04 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) "You didn't win... so get out!"

(2:34:08 PM) (rawkhawk2010) lol

(2:34:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Mr. Ishihara and Bandai-Namco dudes to present the awards.

(2:35:00 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: lol MatPat doesn't get shjit

Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational Allister wins
Allister getting the prize... MatPat looks on.


(2:35:09 PM) (rawkhawk2010) a prize to president to you gentlemen

(2:35:15 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Are they supposed to share it?

(2:35:29 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Maybe they can saw it in half.

(2:35:32 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: lol

(2:35:33 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: oh shit

(2:35:44 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister and MatPat are gonna battle the Namco goons.

(2:35:50 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: The developers vs. the champions.

(2:36:04 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: So first it's Developer A vs. MatPat

(2:36:22 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "some other level" to win.

(2:36:24 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...but, I mean

(2:36:25 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Namcons are probably gonna go easy on them.

(2:36:38 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ...If it was vs. Sakurai it'd be easy.

(2:36:47 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: So it's not like being the developer means you're amazing.

(2:36:53 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: NAMCO USING CROAGUNK

(2:37:21 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "Mr. Suzaki"

(2:37:43 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Yeah, Croagunk is a joke character.

(2:38:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "Mr. Suzaki is a baaaad man right there!"

(2:39:34 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: MatPat won the round

(2:39:45 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Final round between MatPat and Mr. Suzaki

(2:40:17 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Did Croagunk use Pay-Day?

(2:40:53 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: It's apparently "flexing"

(2:41:10 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: "MatPat falling to Mr. Suzaki!"

(2:41:16 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: MatPat was literally on the floor.

(2:41:25 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister up.

(2:41:31 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Vs. Mr. Hoshino

(2:41:38 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Mr. Hoshino looks like a gray-haired Iwata.

(2:41:45 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: wtf

(2:41:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Pikachu vs. Charizard????

(2:42:05 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: GEN WUNNER SCUM

(2:42:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister chose Pikachu.

(2:42:10 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Is there a Weapons Triangle in this?

(2:42:37 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: There's Grabs > Shield > Attack > Grab

(2:42:46 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: but in terms of character to character match-ups no

(2:42:57 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) This reminds me of when Ash's Charizard lost to Richie's Pikachu in the Indigo League.

(2:43:07 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Allister took Round 1.

(2:43:25 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Mr. Hoshino got two Seismic Tosses in a row.

(2:43:44 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: THIRD Seismic Toss.

Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational Seismic Toss Charizard Pikachu Mr. Hoshino Namco Bandai Allister
Allister, why didn't you pick Suicune...?


(2:43:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Mr. Hoshino took Round 2.

(2:44:36 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Why would Allister not pick his main?

(2:45:00 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Pikachu trying to run away from Charizard

(2:45:29 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: MR. HOSHINO WINS

(2:45:44 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Was Pikachu using Stealth Rock when he sent rocks into the air?

(2:45:54 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: I think that was

(2:45:55 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: uh

(2:46:01 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Pikachu's

(2:46:02 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: wait

(2:46:09 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: are they giving Mr. Hoshino the trophy?

(2:46:15 PM) (rawkhawk2010) XD

(2:46:26 PM) (rawkhawk2010) Oh

(2:46:28 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Okay

(2:46:37 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: lol I thought they were taking it and walking away.

(2:46:38 PM) (rawkhawk2010) I was hoping the devs would just walk off stage with the trophies.

Pokkén Tournament DX Invitational MatPat Allistaire champions prize
MatPat gets a trophy now.


(2:46:39 PM) (rawkhawk2010) yeah

(2:47:02 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: lol-ing

(2:47:12 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: Well, that's that.

(2:47:20 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: wtf JD dabbing is in the montage

(2:47:49 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: ARMS tour in 3.75 hours.

(2:47:57 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: And some Treehouse Live in-between!

(2:48:07 PM) Ludwig Von Koopa: AHHH 1-UP GIRL

(2:48:20 PM) (rawkhawk2010) YAY

(2:48:30 PM) (breezinabout@msn.com) *Jives*



Immediately after this they went right to showing Yoshi (working title). It's a busy day!


The log before this one was Tuesday night, featuring the first Nintendo E3 2017 tournament.
That Yoshi game is awesome, though.
The ARMS tournament at the end of the day was also rigged and featured a staff member fighting the champion.

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