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Tuesday, May 20, 2014

Error 20110: Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service discontinued!

By LUDWIG VON KOOPA - And Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection is now over.

As proof you shouldn't go to KoopaTV as your only source of information, we purposefully never talked about the announcement that Nintendo's Wi-Fi Connection would be shut down today, something we knew would happen for months. Why? Well, it didn't fit the narrative.


The screen you get from Super Smash Bros. Brawl nowadays.

Now that it's finally over, we'd like to clear up any misconceptions you may have. The full list of games affected (apparently 408 in number) is here. Nintendo-published ones are here. Nintendo would like to stress the following:
"Only online features for games using the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service are impacted. Other online functionality on Wii and Nintendo DS, such as access to the Wii Shop Channel, the Nintendo DSi Shop and video-on-demand services, are not affected at this time. Online play for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS games will be unaffected (aside from the Wii mode on Wii U and Nintendo DS games played on Nintendo 3DS family systems)."

If you want to be wary of that "are not affected at this time" and read it as "it's not affected YET", go ahead. As of now, Club Nintendo rewards still give out Wii codes you have to go to the Wii Shop Channel to access. You can be sure that when it eventually does close, Nintendo will make an announcement about it.

I've talked to a lot of gamers that are "casual" in their playing of games and Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection services, and they all knew this was coming. That means Nintendo did a good job getting the word out about this. (So what do you need us for?)

Unfortunately, around 10% of the gaming population appears to be angry at Nintendo over this. So let's make this clear. Nintendo outsourced NWFC to GameSpy, which is also the middleware for many other companies' online infrastructure. GameSpy's parent company, Glu, decided to shut down GameSpy's servers for everyone. Some companies handled this differently than others, and Nintendo's decision was not to migrate Wi-Fi Connection to their in-house Nintendo Network, but to just let it die. Other companies did that migration, did something else, or chose what Nintendo chose. Nintendo thought propping up these old games wasn't worth the expense, probably because the DS and Wii games have (or will have) sequels on the 3DS and Wii U. Except for Battalion Wars 2. Bummer.

Commander, I keep pressing "YES", but I keep getting this!

So, again, for clarity: This is not like when Nintendo ended Swapnote. That was entirely their decision. This... is a bit out of their hands. Yes, they could've migrated it, but... at what cost to what benefit? The whole point is that Nintendo Network is distinct from NWFC (although I personally have trouble making people understand that when I explain it to them) and... yes, while the timing of Mario Kart 8 coming out a few days later is perfect, that's a coincidence.

Personally, I'm at peace with it. KoopaTV's staff played Brawl for three hours online Sunday night, and I went through every character on the roster in matches. Good times. It served us well for over six years. And Wi-Fi Connection? Served us well for nine. Rest in peace.


Speaking of the Nintendo Network, Ludwig's ID for that is PrinceOfKoopas. See you around.


For the Sony version of this, click here.
Brawl is essentially dead now.

159 comments :

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    1. Capitalism. The same reason why we had them to begin with.

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    2. BECAUSE NINTENDO IS STUPID!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE THAT DONT HAVE THE LATEST CONSOLE TO PLAY THERE OLD GAMES!!!!!! ITS SO ANNOYING!!!!! NOT EVERYONE CAN BUT THE LATEST THINGS NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    3. That's a complete falsehood and you know it.

      Nintendo is a pioneer in backwards compatibility. They are the ONLY console manufacturer (see: http://koopatv.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-world-snub-eas-world-class-trolling.html ) promoting backwards-backwards compatibility with GameCube support on the Wii U.

      They allow people to play their old games when they port them to the Virtual Console on 3DS, Wii, and Wii U. The Wii U has access to its own growing catalog of Virtual Console games AND the Wii's expansive selection using the backwards-compatible Wii mode on the Wii U.

      (Of course, if you have the old console, you can play the old games...)

      Just because Glu took away Nintendo Wifi Connection, along with the online services of many, many other gaming companies, does not mean you can no longer play games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl or Pokémon Diamond. They still have extensive non-wifi features for you to enjoy.

      Not everyone can buy the latest things, but it's not like Nintendo should keep making Wii games. They're not Electronic Arts (see the article link earlier in this comment), and it's not like they should make Wii U games on... the... Wii.

      If Nintendo was really making it impossible for people who do not own the Wii U to play, say, SNES games, they would do the following:

      1. Go into everyone's house and confiscate their SNES
      2. Disable the Wii Shop Channel

      They haven't done either of those.

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    4. Nintendo is trying to make us to buy there new Wiiu + 3ds AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!

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    5. Go die in a hole

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    6. How about an oven?

      (See, that's a Holocaust joke.)

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  2. Dang i thought nintendo was just trying to troll us and were also serious now i get why they shut it off

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    1. This is probably why they didn't outsource Miiverse, too.

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  3. I am now satisfied. *nods*

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    1. Yeah, I know you've wanted me to write about this for... many many months now. :p

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  4. I just emailed nintendo to turn it back on and not let it die ;,) We MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE CHANCE!!!!! FOR THE GAMES, FOR THE PEOPLE, TO GET NINTENDO BACK 10% OF THE FANS THEY LOST!!!

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    1. Probably in a 1 out of 998877

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    2. (Not sure where you got the 10% from...)

      I like to think that Ace Attorney Investigations 2 has a much higher chance than that. :p

      Nintendo has almost no incentive to bring this back, especially since it's a free service for us to begin with.
      You get what you pay for.

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    3. ...Oh, right, the poll I cited.
      Well just 'cause they're angry doesn't mean they're lost!

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  5. so what do we need to do to get back to playing online. i'm not what you would call a gamer, so please enlighten me

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    1. Get a 3DS or Wii U and play on that.

      There are... apparently other ways to play on WFC, but I don't endorse those because they break terms of services.

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    2. hi there your right nintendo now uses regualar wi-fi internet that you use not nintendo wi-fi

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    3. ...Uh... I think you misunderstand.

      You always connected to Nintendo's wi-fi connection service through regular wi-fi Internet. It's not its own connection network.

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    4. So I cant play super smash Bros brawl with friends on my wii anymore that's BULLSHIT

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    5. ...Yeah, where have you been? It's been discontinued for over a year.

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    6. Sorry, Ludwig, I study law and economics and I know (you certainly also know that) that the reason why Nintendo did that is the protection of intelectual property, in addiction to the concentration of economic power. If there were competition in this market, that wouldnt't happen. I know tha we, consumers, need Nintendo's connections, but imagine the number of people that were damaged by this decision of Nintendo. Many would want to play with friends, play on-line - why? Because Nintendo offered this services, made you want, and when you enjoyed, he broke the service out. The reason is clearly to force the consumers to buy their new products. Tha's a manifestation of economic power (power to impose other ones to behavior in one or another way), but this is not forbidden by law. What is forbidden is the abuse of this economic power, and that occured, in this case. Here's my argument.

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    7. ...Um, what? What exactly your point? You wrote a lot of words but you didn't really say anything.

      You're saying Nintendo did something illegal...?

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    8. i am most definitely not on ludwig's side but u could expand on that a bit more

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    9. But of course. :)

      Welcome to KoopaTV, Destiny Kitty!

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  6. This sucks! Fuck Nintendo!!! I'll never purchase Nintendo products ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. No!
      That's not a good way to look at this. At all.

      Nintendo is amazing, but all things need to come to an end.

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    2. Me, too. ......! It sucks...!

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    3. Nintendo can feel like fuckheads for this - because that is exactly what they are. A bunch of wankers who probably all just need a girlfriend, or their first lay!! Someone get them a bunch of shielas so we can all have our online gaming experiences back.

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    4. ...Quite frankly, I don't think they feel like that.

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    5. Really p****d off. I had heard nothing about it till my son and I settled down for an evening of mario kart wii last night and found the internet gone! I shall not be buying nintendo again!

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    6. i just wanna play jump ultimate stars.....i even just brought a new dsi xl to play it on, this sucks.....could i play jump on a 3ds online?

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    7. There might be a 3DS sequel sometime in the future.

      It's generally not a good idea to buy new old systems after the new system comes out to replace it.

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    8. of course it bloody sucks!!!! like many ppl I can not afford a bloody 3DS..... and I was trying to connect for the very first time.... it was NOT properly advertised that the network WOULD be shut down.
      its very unfair to a lot of ppl. I myself have to wait for a hand-me-down on an old 3DS..... not everyone is fucking rich you bastards!!

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    9. ...You were trying to connect for the first time? >_>;

      Uh, people don't advertise a negative. They *inform* you of a negative.
      And in Nintendo's case, they did inform everyone via press release *and* a notification to your system.

      ...You don't have to be rich to afford a 3DS, though. That's why they even made the 2DS! You can get a new 2DS for only $100.
      http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/consoles/nintendo-2ds-crystal-blue/117270

      Which is literally the price of a DSi right now. This DSi is $130:
      http://www.gamestop.com/ds/consoles/nintendo-dsi-xl-bronze/77224

      It is not "unfair". That's ridiculous.

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    10. I agree, I'll never buy Nintendo again. I'm not a hardcore player I just realised this shutdown 5days ago. :-) So I'm not pissed off and not angry but if anyone will buy a Wii U then what is the guarantee that after 3years Nintendo won't close online gaming to buy the new Nintendo X? So the message is rough, I whistle you buy.

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    11. I can tell you as a hardcore follower of this information, that Nintendo has indicated through its investor meetings that the Nintendo Network system established with the Wii U will continue throughout time.

      That said, Nintendo reserves the right to end their online services to anyone at any time for any reason. Just the risk you have to take when signing any EULA. (End-User License Agreement)
      And that's not just Nintendo but any console manufacturer. Or hell, any company.

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    12. this is the worst thing that has ever happened

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    13. Up yours nintendo. F*ck you

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    14. Wait, wait, wait. Did u just JOKE about the HOLOCAUST. To soon Koopa, to soon.

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    15. That wasn't a joke! The Holocaust objectively sucked more than Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection closing!
      It's called putting things in perspective!

      ...who even are you anyway and why did you comment so much?

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  7. I hate fricken Nintendo for this crap

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    1. It's not their fault, though.

      And how long were they supposed to keep this up?

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    2. They should have kept it up forever.

      I bought a Wii for the specific purpose of playing Mario Kart online against family and friends in other countries.....

      It was a selling point and highlighted feature of the console I bought.

      I feel like I have been robbed of an advertised service to the product.

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    3. There is a reason that the Wii Mini launched in 2012 has no Internet access. It's foreshadowing.

      http://www.tomsguide.com/us/nintendo-wii-mini-pros-cons,news-17823.html

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    4. There is also a reason that MANY Nintendo supporters would now rather fling human fecal matter at Nintendo Execs than buy another of their console!!

      Yes I recently bought a Wii - because of the functions it had.... I left my Wii in America when I came home to Aus and bought a new one....

      I shall never buy Nintendo again, and everyone at every pub, strip club, or rave that I meet - I shall convince likewise.

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    5. That's an absurd position.

      There are 360 and PS3 servers that are also down. These are LAST-GEN. Wii's went on for a year and a half longer since Wii U came out. For DS, it's been... uh... over three years.

      Nintendo didn't even run the servers, why would you throw shit at them?

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  8. Okay can I just:

    I JUST SPENT LIKE AN HOUR TRYING TO CONNECT TO THE WIFI FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IT WOULD HAVE WORKED TOO IF IT WASNT FOR THOSE PESKY NINTENDO WORKERS.
    Like, why. I finally got a grasp of how to do it at the age of 14, and I'm like a week late. A WEEK LATE LIKE ITS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS AND I MISS OUT BY A WEEK HOW?!?!?!

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    1. ...That's... unfortunate?
      (...I guess I didn't make my point strong enough that pesky Nintendo workers had nothing to do with it.)

      What was so complicated about it though? The connecting part.

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    2. Answer this. What is so complicated about it getting a life?The friends part.

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    3. ...Your, uh, parallel structure wasn't actually parallel and it didn't quite make sense.

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    4. I think he's referring to u

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  9. i cant play pokemon in wifi no more!!! :( :( :( :(

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    1. I didn't know people still played BW2 wifi. >_>;

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    2. ppl still play the old fucking games because they are good.... are you like rich and retarded lugwig?
      there are many ppl out there that need to scrimp and save for long periods of time just to try and afford a pokemon game.... governments fuck up payments, the economy bounces around worse than a bipolar midget in a freakin circus.... yes it would've coated Nintendo some fucking $$ to buy the rights to the WiFi but they also would've made it all back ten fold by keeping their customers happy. Pokemon is BIG BUCKS! they screwed themselves by letting the WiFi become obsolete.

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    3. ...I hope you know that Nintendo does NOT make money off Wi-Fi Connection even being open. That's why it was free.

      If you can explain how Nintendo gets revenue from buying an obsolete service (which was obsolete without them "letting" it be) that does not have a user fee that is only available for obsolete games that they do not produce anymore, please tell me and tell Nintendo.

      Pokémon is big bucks, which is why they are making non-obsolete games in the series that heavily utilise the Nintendo Network. Please tell me how it helps Nintendo to have people running around with old Pokémon games on an old system while they currently have new Pokémon games on their new system.

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    4. the same reason people still read shakespeare and not diary of a wimpy kid old school on kindle

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    5. I wasn't asking for a reason, I was asking for an explanation.

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  10. and i cant download them ethier. how am i suppose to complete my pokedex now. no more events and linktrading. only way to complete pokedex ws to DOWNLOAD sigh now i have to get a 3ds $170-$200 out of my pocket

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    1. yep.... that proves it.... you are retarded!!!!! not everyone has that kinda cash spare!!!! $130 to you may she like nothing, but for someone whom is balancing on the poverty line its a lot of fucking money!!!

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    2. If you're on the poverty line, you should not have videogames as a hobby to begin with.

      There are much cheaper forms of entertainment.

      Tell me, if you're at poverty, why and how do you have a DS/Wii to begin with?

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    3. Distraction from being on the poverty line

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    4. Eh, this is probably your best comment so far. It's still not very good.

      There are better, cheaper, more cost-effective ways to “distract” yourself.

      Maybe if you weren't busy distracting yourself you can actually get out of the poverty line.

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  11. THIS IS FEARKING BS

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  12. could i play my normal ds games on a 3ds online?

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    1. If u don't work for nintendo and (as an educated guess) don't have these (to quote u) "obsolete games", how do you know this crap

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    2. I do have them!
      https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aIIC7fmS3Ik/VsJ49PieIdI/AAAAAAAAGik/lgu-G9-JrJI/s640/Ludwig-Pok%25C3%25A9mon-Blue-Leaf-Green.JPG

      See? It's me with really old games! Your guess could've been more educated if you read around.

      You don't have to work for Nintendo to know how things work. ♪

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  13. Stop wasting your breath defending Nintendo Ludwig; I hope your getting paid for this sales pitch your pushing on all these angry customers. The Wii was sold with WiFi and WFC. Nintendo took it away without most of the public even knowing it was coming.

    Stop lying to yourself Nintendo is guilty. If they wanted to continue the service they could but they choose not too. And why did they choose not too? Because they want people to buy the Wii U and 3DS simple capitilism. Half thease people will get over it and end up buying a Wii U when they go on sale next Christmas anyway.

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    1. ...Nah, we're not paid. ...That'd be nice, but we're impartial for now.

      Yes, the Wii was sold with WFC. And after the Wii U came out, the Wii was no longer sold. Well, it was. But as the "Wii Mini", which did not have any Wi-Fi capabilities on it.

      The claim that Nintendo took it away without the public knowing is false, especially with the Wii. I know that's a fact, because I myself got a Wii notification stating that Wi-Fi Connection would be ending months in advance of it ending. The Wii glowed blue and everything.

      Glu ended the service, not Nintendo.
      Yes, they chose not to buy servers for Wii and DS stuff. Yes, they did it because of capitalism. No, that's not a bad thing.
      They don't want to keep supporting the Wii and DS, which they get no money supporting. They don't still sell Wii and DS. Wi-Fi Connection was always free for the consumer, so the sole purpose of its existence was to be a feature with Wii and DS. It would be a selling point for why you should get a Wii and/or DS.

      However, if you're no longer selling Wii and DS, why would you keep the selling point up?

      Perhaps to please your existing customers that are lagging behind by years to adopt the new technology?
      I'm sure Nintendo THOUGHT about doing that. And I'm positive they calculated the immense costs of supporting a service they get no revenue from vs. the cost of angry consumers. In the end, the cost of angry laggard consumers was less than the cost of supporting that service.

      So yes, it's capitalism, but it's fine. It means Nintendo can use that money for something else, like funding another Wii U or 3DS project or three.

      Again, I'm at peace with Brawl's wi-fi ending. I'd rather have those additional projects than continue that. Smash 4 will be great, and people SHOULD get the 3DS and Wii U. They're great systems with great games.

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    2. I think it's a load of crap. We bought a product with certain features and now they don't work. There is still the icon WFC showing up on there but it is useless and it's not because it is broke! As long as there are still people using the service it should not of been discontinued. I think that is the problem with things today. We just accept getting less and that is BS! People pay for things all the time and get crappy service or none at all. I don't think most of us want to go out and replace a system that worked just fine with a new one that who knows when they will decide to pull the plug on it next. That is really nice that you are at peace with it, too bad you can't understand why most of us aren't. All we ever wanted was what came with the game, instead we got a big part of it ripped away. Thanks a lot to whomever thought that was a great idea.

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    3. Well, they're not going to patch every wifi-compatible Wii game to remove the Wi-Fi Connection option from menus.

      I don't even think they CAN do that if they wanted to.

      There are still people who play GameCube every day. Should Nintendo still release GameCube support? (...Not counting the Smash controllers we're seeing now.)

      I understand why you're unhappy with it. But no one ever promised the servers would stay up forever.

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    4. I think they should consider how many units were sold and base their decision on that. They made a steller product with the Wii and I would venture to guess a very high percentage of those units are still very much in working order aside from the fact that they just removed a major selling feature. This is like Verizon offering cell phone service 24/7 and one day saying "ok now only the Iphone 5 has service 24/7, sorry to everyone else but you can buy the newer phone, nobody is stopping you. Nobody ever promised you the service would stay up forever. What a crappy way to run a business and to treat the millions of customers who bought into it.

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    5. Nintendo of course made a decision based on data. They could've bought the servers from Glu after Glu shut them down. They didn't. Why didn't they?

      Maybe those millions of customers who bought Wiis don't play them anymore or use wi-fi services.

      It's not a decision out of the blue. They told us a long time before hand.
      And again, it wasn't even Nintendo's decision to close this on the first place?
      ...Every other company was affected too?

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    6. When were we told this was going to happen? I don't recall being notified? I understand it wasn't Nintendo's decision which doesn't speak highly of Nintendo in the first place. It is their product and their name on every Wii console and game that plays in the product. Before it went offline we had discussed looking into the WiiU but if this is how they are going to run things, I think we'll pass. I'm tired as hell of playing this "pay again and again and upgrade" game It really is bad business and a bad reflection of a company that has made millions or billions on the backs of gamers that took Nintendo Wii to the top.

      I'm all for capitalism but I draw the line at yanking away features on a purchased product from a billion dollar company.

      I'm done. That is all.

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    7. Nintendo sent notifications aroouuunnndd February to your Wii and to all the gaming media.

      It doesn't reflect highly on Nintendo to outsource stuff?

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  14. This is bull no matter how nicely you're trying to put it.

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  15. I didnt get any notification about it. I think that the wii is worth nothing without his WFC.
    Instead of playing online i I need to buy some new games that costs a lot of money.
    I won't be surprised if Nintendo's product will get dump or something.
    I think that I have paid enough for the wii and game and the wifi that I am using and because of that the wifi is disconnected I have no intrest in many games.
    I am not mad or something and I hope that they will think of something that will bring back the intrest for example some kind of cabel that connects two other wiis so they will be able to play together.

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    1. Nintendo DID dump the Wii. They don't make new Wii games anymore.
      No one does.
      (Except EA: http://koopatv.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-world-snub-eas-world-class-trolling.html )
      Wii U and 3DS are Nintendo's focuses.

      That's why Nintendo doesn't sell Wiis with online capabilities anymore.

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  16. I have purchased my last Nintendo Product EVER!!

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    1. Ludwig what's a shame? Your'e the shame,standing up for those pesky Nintendo workers...

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    2. ...I LIKE those pesky Nintendo workers. You should too.
      It's a shame you don't.

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    3. Yeah,cause you work for them you dumbcrap we don't.If they say lick poop you would do it.Your like an AI man go get a life *geez*

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    4. I swear I don't work for Nintendo!

      Nintendo would not like a lot of the stuff I write on this blog.

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  17. whats the point in all this? The wii was one of nintendos best-selling products, why put all of its buyers into misery for the sales of some crappy products such as the 2DS (which destroys the point of a DS: to fit in your pocket), and the Wiiu (which is overpriced and overvalued). I used to love playing Mario Kart over the internet with my cousin...

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    1. Hold it!

      ...If you want to read my justification for the 2DS, you can look here: http://koopatv.blogspot.com/2013/08/in-defense-of-2ds.html

      Now then, the 3DS family is an amazing set of systems, and I would like to know why you believe the Wii U is overpriced and overvalued. I cherish my Wii U, and of course, you can play Kart on 3DS/2DS and/or Wii U with your cousin or anyone else who also has those games.

      The point in all this is that companies drop unprofitable things. Glu was going out of the business of hosting network services for videogame companies. Videogame companies could choose whether or not to absorb that previously-outsourced function, or let it die. Doing the former for Nintendo is very costly... for a service provided free to the customers.

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  18. Ludwig mate stop acting smart,really what you say we really don't care,it aint gonna solve any of this crap...

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    1. Oh, it doesn't matter if I agreed with you either, it wouldn't "solve" anything.

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  19. I spent over 4 years getting a 3 star rank and a 9999 br and vr... Nintendo lost another loyal and dedicated fan in me.

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    1. It's an achievement you can remember and hopefully have memorialized.

      But you gotta move on sometime.

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  20. I spent over 4 years getting a 3 star rank and a 9999 br and vr... Nintendo lost another loyal and dedicated fan in me.

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    1. Did you expect to have that forever though?

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  21. Yea... after I spent 200$ on a wii that blew up and 200$ more on a wii u just to countinue mario kartwii which cost 50$ when I bought it... I figured that theyed let me coutinue playi g online... P.S Ludwig Koopa was of Bowsers castle World 7 on New Super Mario Wii

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    1. I give them my money and time but now I have no reason to play it anymore

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    2. Yeah I'm aware of my appearances. :o

      But you could play Kart 8!

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    3. Ludwig I guess youre right so thanks to you im giving Nintendo a second chance!

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    4. ...Oh hey it's a comment on here that ISN'T angry.

      Based on the few minutes I've played of MK8 so far (I'll publish an article of my first impressions shortly... during the week.) it's already better than MKWii.

      ...eh that might not be true.

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  22. Hah, looking back and seeing the rage; Now, NOW I realize why you might be slightly hesitant.

    Also dat "YOU'RE GONNA GET DIABETES" tho

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  23. Herp DER DERP Der derp Der see dee

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  24. Well at least modern warfare reflex works online and thats all i play online lol

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    1. Oh, right, I seem to recall that there were games on the Wii NOT hosted on Wifi Connection.

      I guess that would be one of them.

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  25. Well this is stupid i have given nintendo $2000 that has been spent on the wii and this is how they repay me i am not buying a wii u or 3ds. i find the 3ds the same as the nintendo ds only with cameras, memory (the worst part of the handheld device), and a store and all of these options are useless. I find the wii u just a terrible copy of the regular wii, and if nintendo ever discontinue another service that i enjoy i will email them telling them that they are stupid idiots who don't know what to do. Lugwig answer me this if you spent 1000's of dollars on a gaming console and they decide to pull the plug on a service that you have enjoyed for 8 years how would you feel? because right now i am feeling crappy, i have payed $3000!!!! in total for all the games and accessories, and don't even try to defend nintendo because they are fucks who have no respect to costumers.

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    1. Yeah, sorry, your complaint is fundamentally dishonest.

      I mean, hell, you jumped from $2,000 to $3,000 in the same comment!

      You're acting like Nintendo disabled usage of playing the entire Wii. Which didn't happen.

      Anyway, Wii U and 3DS are completely different experiences than Wii and DS respectively.

      ...Wii U vs. Wii in particular. The two are nothing alike.

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    2. how is it dishonest tell me do you know how many games and accessorizes i have. if you see how many games i have that need wfc you would be suprised. so do not tell me i am lying. So stop defending nintendo you nintendo kiss up.

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    3. No game "needs" WFC.

      I don't know. Do you know? Apparently you don't know how much you have!

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    4. Bullshit Ludwig!!! Gamers who want to play online on the ORIGINAL Wii or use the DSi shop to add more games....We no longer can play Pokemon online....(Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, Pokemon Heartgold/Soulsilver,Pokemon Black/White,Pokemon BW2) due to the fact that WFC has been terminated..
      Plus Mario Kart Wii, and SSBB were major games on Nintendo WFC.
      The Wii, DS, DS lite, DSi/Dsi XL are now useless, and pretty soon, they will be dead and gone thanks to the overpriced Wii U, and the 3DS.
      The 2DS is a complete piece of shit... Its nothing but a flat ass 3DS without the 3D feature,lid switch(thanks to it being flat ), And even worse, it only plays audio in one speaker..... So how would like it if you were to have a 3DS model what is the equivalent of a watered-down GBA?
      Please tell me..
      Matter of fact send me a email of your opinion.....
      ViableNutria797isback@gmail.com

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    5. ...I don't want to send you an e-mail I'd rather respond to your actual comment here. >.>
      (There is a "Notify me" button you could check to get an e-mail sent to you that I replied!)

      Yes, Wii, DS, DS Lite, DSi and DSi XL are now useless. One of those is over 10 years old now, and the others are getting there (8 years and counting).

      It's a very, very traditional thing in the videogame industry for consoles to have a lifespan of like, 6 years.
      Wii U isn't overpriced in the sense that Nintendo initially lost money on selling that hardware, unlike, for example, the DS and Wii.

      ...The 2DS isn't complete shit! (You get what you pay for!) It's stereo with headphones, anyway.
      And hey, it's still an upgrade from a DS Lite.

      The people who keep claiming they're too poor to upgrade to a new system simultaneously claim that they would buy new games on the Wii and DS if Nintendo WFC was still around (despite no new games being made for those).

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  26. I just noticed. There are 4 DSs in my house. I recommended buying DSs to my friends back in 2010, they bought. My cousins have DSs. My friends and family too. This is bad. This might hit Nintendo's reputation hard. Angry customers bring companies down. If I had Nintendo stock I would sell it. I'll add them to my portfolio to consider betting against.. this looks like Blackberry in the smartphone industry.. whoa.. Nintendo lost it. They should put the servers back up to avoid the backlash. The nintendo DS is the reason they are soo big now. One last: whoa

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    1. For the record, you do not short stocks just because you do not like the company.

      You short stocks because you think the stock price is going to go down.

      Since May 20, Nintendo's stock has... pretty much stayed the same. (May 20 to August 29 it has increased .36%) It decreased a ton of like July 28 for some reason I haven't followed but was generally going up before then!

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  27. I hate how nintendo will do this to us n I might sell my games for the newer ones n also y do u know every lil thing in ur brain how r u doing this makes me mad sometimes

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    1. Well, Nintendo's new systems are backwards-compatible with those games you plan to sell, so if you still like them and would play them, don't sell them!

      As for... uh... knowing every little thing in my brain, I have a Brain Age of 20.
      You can too if you read KoopaTV every day! And read the hundreds of articles already published. (And play Brain Age.)

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    2. (...at your own pace, of course.)

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    3. Heres the problem... Even if the Wii U is backwards compatible... Half of the shit on the original wii titles dont fucking work. If WFC was still here, or if WFC was carried onto Nintendo Network, nobody would have that problem.
      I understand that you don't work at Nintendo, you work at KoopaTV.
      However, that doesn't mean you have to act like you're for Nintendo since they shut it down... matter of fact why did you even bother commenting like that!?

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    4. Why do I bother? Well, it's a huuuuuuge issue, and this is a commentary site, so I'm obligated to comment on it.
      That's all.

      I maintain that there are many single-player experiences AND local multiplayer experiences on the Wii that are absolutely fantastic without WFC.

      Do not forget that Nintendo is the king of local multiplayer, a title they have always had and continue to have on the Wii U. (It helps the other console manufacturers have abandoned local multiplayer.)

      They could have carried WFC onto Nintendo Network, but the problem there is that... that would require a major patch to the DS and Wii to be able to do things like generate NNIDs. The 3DS obtained a patch/update to allow that, but the DS has absolutely no way of receiving one of those. ...The Wii could, I guess.

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  28. What exactly was the other way of getting around being offline you say it's not as safe but it is an alternative cause i just bought white 2 to make some legit hacks cause im one of those people that really dont care for the story or the gameplay of pokemon but i like the battle portion of it. Or really any turn based strategy game at that, but this is really all i play on my 3ds, when i do play it, would it be worth it to try the method you spoke of?

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    1. ...Well, at this point, it involves possessing illegal stuff, so I'm not endorsing it.

      ...Or going to tell you about it.

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    2. Although if you like, I can give you other 3DS games you can enjoy.

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    3. *give you the names of

      (I'm not giving you free games! ...KoopaTV does give away free Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire demo codes though.)

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    4. I understand, if I decide to ill figure it out.

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    5. Also there is no need, I will probably just buy ruby or sapphire when they are released. I just wanted to use the legal hacks to potentially have a chance at being competitive with the online scene in x and y cause that's what most people have done up to this point. So I just got unlucky this time haha.

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    6. Eh, just use an online battle simulator.

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  29. No more Pokemon trades or events for console game lovely.....

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  30. This fucking bullshit!!! FUCK YOU GAMESPY! and Fuck You Nintendo for letting it die..
    I only have my last 5 dollars, and I obviously cannot afford a Wii U or 3DS. And, I can't afford the Wii U...
    Wii U- $299.99 + 10% Tax
    3DS- $199.99 + 10% Tax
    I'm not rich Nintendo!!! I loved your products but dammit why did you let GameSpy do this to your loyal fans....
    Pokemon B&W, Platinum,Diamond,pearl, Mario kart DS, along with the DSi Shop... ARE FUCKING USELESS...
    i'm done with you,Nintendo!

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    1. What's this 10% tax shit? >_>;
      Where the hell do you live? >.<; Yikes. 10% sales tax sounds like hell.

      (DSi shop was always useless though, although what's on there is also on the 3DS eShop?)

      Let's be fair though. 3DS is not $200 anywhere unless you go out of your way to get a limited edition XL or something.

      That said, if you only have $5 to your name, you're probably not a worthwhile customer.

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    2. There's 9% sales tax in AZ, so i don't doubt there's 10% somewhere.

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    3. Well, the averages (keyword) don't go above 10% for state and local combined:
      http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-and-local-sales-tax-rates-2014

      Apparently there is a shitty place in Arizona with 7.125% local sales tax on top of 5.6% sales tax, and I really hope y'all don't have any other taxes there.

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  31. I'm very mad/saddened by this... I actually feel this is, in fact, Nintendo's fault. They may have not done it directly, but they decided to let someone else have control over a functionality of their own products! Unless they couldn't afford to run it themselves, that's the dumbest thing ever. If Nintendo just ran their own Wifi connection services, (like everyone thinks they do... The least they could do is take their name off of it if it isn't theirs anymore. Not doing it is a good way to be blamed and lose customers,) we probably wouldn't be having this problem.
    I agree with other people, though: not everyone has the money to waste on a game system that's over $100 and then buy games that are nearly $100 3 years after their release! I honestly wanted to do trades on Pokemon, (I don't know anyone who lives near me who I can trade with locally...) but Pokemon games, (Diamond/Pearl, even GBA games,) are usually $30+ at GameStop, and that's ridiculous. I just want a few Pokemon, but i can't even do that because Nintendo chooses not to fully support itself...
    I think it would have been smarter if they just didn't offer what they can't handle. They're an old company that provides convenience, (for the most part,) for their customers! The only thing not to love is that they can't uphold all of their features... Maybe that's one of the downsides of being the best gaming company? (They really are. Gamecube on Wii? Not many other companies do things like that--hell, you can't even play xbox original games on the 360 anymore!)

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    1. What I want to know is...
      ...Is every pissed off commenter here bemoaning how bad Nintendo is for not continuing WFC also boycotting or whatever every other company (hundreds) that used Gamespy's services?

      They probably could afford to run it themselves, but only if they enjoy losing more money than they have already been doing.

      They DO run their current service themselves, though.

      Buy games that are nearly $100 3 years after their release? ...Uh... the games aren't that expensive. ...Unless you're trying to get them new or I dunno wot you're talking about. I know there are some games that are that much (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance) but those weren't WFC. :o

      Woah, woah, woah. Are you saying that all companies that outsource aren't doing the smart decision?

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  32. I wished I could do the pokemon wifi club with my sis. But actually thanks a lot for telling me! I was confused about why it wouldn't let me do it! If you hadn't told me, I would've gone into rage (not really, just still confused and angry)! Then at the same time, I'm disappointed of Nintendo. It should let us do this kind of stuff whenever we want, maybe even when we're old!

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    1. *I meant, "THEY should let us do this... (continued)

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    2. So you didn't get enraged while you were reading this?

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  33. All of these comments here are making me laugh. I'm a horrible person.

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    1. I wish we could get this kind of perfect storm again. xD

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  34. I want the wfc back and sup ludwig

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  35. fuck you "ludwig" I have been reading these comments and i imagine you licking your nipples with oversized cow tounge and then spraypainting i kiss nintendos ass on your house, IF YOU EVEN HAVE A HOUSE you are probably so fucking retarded that you live in a krispy kreme donut box and every time you are thirsty you have the homeless guy sitting next to you pull your spine out of your back so that you can suck your own dick. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE, A SPINELESS NINTENDO ASS KISSING HOMELESS RETARD NIPPLE LICKING COW!!!

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    1. Why are you shit-commenting KoopaTV at 4 AM?

      I must have the BEST Krispy Kreme donut box house out of all of the Krispy Kreme donut box houses to have a running Internet connection, at least. And a desktop computer.

      By the way, my level in Super Mario World was Cheese Bridge, not Donut Plains. That's Morton's.

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    2. I kinda wonder if this guy will ever come back.

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  36. Aw, my first and only handheld, wifi enabled system is an old DSi. Got so excited when we finally got internet so I could go play Pokemon online and then found out it's discontinued. xD Super sad. Ah well.

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    1. ...
      Did you, um, just figure this out now, over two years later?

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