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Monday, June 22, 2020

KoopaTV Live Reacts to Mr. Sakurai Presenting Min Min from ARMS

By LUDWIG VON KOOPA - Fair and balanced LIVE coverage.

The public has known for three months now that the next downloadable character to be added to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate would be a fighter from Nintendo's 2017 Nintendo Switch title, ARMS. However, they didn't specify WHO from ARMS would be featured, leaving Super Smash Bros. fans in yet another agonising several months of speculation.

Joining KoopaTV's live reaction log are Heavy Lobster—who actually really likes ARMS and is happy that it's getting attention—and myself, who despises ARMS and has been writing prophetic articles about how it's unfortunate that the Super Smash Bros. development team keeps making characters with ever-longer attack ranges, as well as lamenting the fact that the ARMS stage will have significantly more music than the Punch-Out!! stage.

Watch the reveal presentation with us here to follow along:

[9:35 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: I'm still going to go with my "the ARMS Fighter is Hedlok" theory. Anyway, stream link is (or will be) here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIMl7Ej8sTM
[9:35 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Twitch has nothing on it for some reason.
[9:43 AM] HeavyLobster: I will be happy with literally any character that's not Springtron.
[9:44 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: How about Biff?
[9:45 AM] HeavyLobster: Even Biff would be better.
[9:51 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: I might actually like Biff the most.
[9:51 AM] Ryu: I don't care about the character lol
[9:52 AM] Ryu: I just want Twintelle for the reaction
[9:56 AM] HeavyLobster: My headcanon is that Biff was a failed Dr. Coyle experiment Max Brass took in out of pity.
[9:56 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: I just want Jigglypuff to stop getting brand-new bad match-ups. :(
At least the music should be sorta nice.
[9:57 AM] Ryu: I still want it to be Paper Mario somehow
[9:58 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Well he basically is an ARMS character in Origami King.
[10:00 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: E10+ to T
[10:00 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: SNAP
[10:00 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: May 2, 2020.
[10:00 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: So recorded weeks before the state of emergency was lifted.
"Livestream" from 50 days ago.
[10:01 AM] HeavyLobster: Sakurai house.
[10:01 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: He likes to have the TV on while playing games?
[10:02 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Reminds me of TVii.
[10:02 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: (aka he has two giant TV monitors)
[10:02 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: WE'LL FIND OUT
[10:03 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: REVEAL TRAILER
[10:03 AM] HeavyLobster: Slinky explains everything.
[10:03 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: CAPTIAN FALCON
[10:03 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: KIRBY
[10:03 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: NOODLES
[10:03 AM] Ryu: Min min then
[10:03 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: This reminds me of the Little Mac trailer.
[10:03 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Spring Man takes the letter.
[10:03 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Alright now this is the Fatal Fury trailer.
[10:04 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: With all of the fighters stealing the letter.
[10:04 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Captain Falcon is really enjoying his noodles.
[10:04 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: MIN MIN ARMS HERSELF
[10:04 AM] HeavyLobster: MIN MIN FOR THE WIN WIN
[10:05 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: omg her range is terrifying
[10:05 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: SHE REFLECTS TOO WHY
[10:05 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: awww Min Min Kirby
[10:06 AM] HeavyLobster: She deflects in the actual game
[10:06 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Mr. Yabuki told Sakurai "I want Min Min."
[10:06 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: "Everyone's the protagonist!"
[10:06 AM] HeavyLobster: Yabuki's favorite is Min Min
[10:07 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: "She's very good against heavier fighters." ;-;
[10:07 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Lighter characters and aerial based are good against her?
Does that include Jigglypuff?
[10:07 AM] HeavyLobster: I believe it's Min Min and Spring Man who were his favorites.
[10:07 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: THEY'RE SO LONG


Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Min Min bend ARMS
LONGEST RANGE OF ANY (playable) CHARACTER IN SMASH HISTORY.

[10:08 AM] HeavyLobster: That's not how dragons work!
[10:08 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: wait excuse me
[10:08 AM] HeavyLobster: Dragons are supposed to go a short distance and shoot a laser beam.
[10:08 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: A and B control different ARMs?
[10:09 AM] HeavyLobster: Faithful to the game
[10:10 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: WHAT'S HER UP-SMASH
[10:10 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Sakurai claims she lacks anti-aerials.
[10:11 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: And is bad up-close.
[10:11 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Down-B is ARM change.
Ramram is one.
[10:11 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Huge range. >.>
[10:12 AM] HeavyLobster: Which is also faithful to ARMS. One reason why Hydra/Biffler are ARMS I use a lot.
[10:12 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Megawatt is another ARM which is "super strong" but "relatively slow" and "the range is very short" as he's showing it going halfway across the stage.
[10:12 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Next is "Dragon" which is the left arm by default (you can't change the left one).
[10:13 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: (But you can change the right)
Dragon can shoot a laser beam.
[10:13 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Literally can cover the entire stage.
[10:13 AM] HeavyLobster: In the game the dragon doesn't go out that far.
[10:13 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Since she can stand in the middle of it and shoot attacks to her left and right at the same time.
[10:14 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: And they each can cover half the stage.


Min Min Dragon ARMS Super Smash Bros Ultimate range covers entire stage both sides
How is this okay? Sure, you could jump (so can Min Min), but what does Little Mac do?

[10:14 AM] HeavyLobster: Dragon ARM charge baby!
[10:14 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: She can KICK?
[10:15 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Her up-smash is a somersault kick.
[10:15 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: And this is the reflector.
[10:15 AM] HeavyLobster: That was in her trailer for ARMS.
[10:16 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Breakdance for down-smash.
[10:16 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Oooh scrubs love the divekick down-airs.
[10:16 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Pretty good recovery distance. >_>
[10:16 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: And she has invincibility at the start-up.
[10:17 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Great another invincible up-b out of shield.
[10:17 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Up-B in the air is a grapple.
[10:17 AM] HeavyLobster: She's gonna be crazy on Temple.
[10:17 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Which makes it very hard for her to be edgeguarded.
[10:18 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: The stage is Spring Stadium. That's Spring Man's, isn't it?
[10:18 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Are we gonna get Yabuki combos?
[10:18 AM] HeavyLobster: RIP Hedlok
[10:18 AM] HeavyLobster: Maybe.
[10:18 AM] HeavyLobster: And it is Spring Man's stage.
[10:19 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: The ceiling is part of the stage, so people will bounce off of it and into the jump panel.
[10:19 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: So yeah there's Yabuki combos.
[10:19 AM] HeavyLobster: RamRam is gonna be the best arm on her.
[10:19 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: He's camping.
[10:20 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Worse than Belmont!
[10:20 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: "Hmm, Level 8 CPU! They're pretty tough!"
He literally hasn't been hit.
[10:20 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: "Oh no, I KO'd Kirby."
[10:21 AM] HeavyLobster: She
[10:21 AM] HeavyLobster: is gonna be super campy
[10:22 AM] HeavyLobster: Min Min is actually my secondary in ARMS
[10:22 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Captain Falcon contributed nothing.
[10:22 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Alright SONG LIST.
[10:22 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: 18 tracks total.
[10:22 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: (Compare to Punch-Out!!'s 5)
[10:23 AM] HeavyLobster: Yesss
[10:23 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: "nearly all of the music" from ARMS stages.
[10:23 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: June 29.
[10:23 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: MII FIGHTERS
[10:23 AM] HeavyLobster: In a week.
[10:23 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: DECONFIRMS TIME
[10:24 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Ninjara deconfirmed
[10:24 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Heihachi deconfirmed.

I thought he was already in this.
[10:24 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: uh oh
[10:24 AM] HeavyLobster: Ninjara boi
[10:24 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Callie deconfirmed
[10:24 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Marie deconfirmed
[10:24 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Marie is a Gunner because her favourite weapon is canonically the Charger.
[10:24 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Callie looks awful.
[10:25 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: HAHAHAA
[10:25 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: wtf
[10:25 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Vault Boy?!
[10:25 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Vault Boy just blew up Mario.

Mario bob-omb Vault Boy Mii Fighter trailer Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
The next frame features Mario perishing in an explosion.
This is the one good thing Fallout has contributed to the world.

[10:26 AM] HeavyLobster: Vault Boy feels weird


Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Mii Fighter costumes round 6 Ninjara Heihachi Vault Boy Callie Marie
Yeaaaah Ninjara looks pretty cool but everyone else is hideous.

[10:26 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Rematch feature to Spirit Board.
[10:26 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Oh wait not the board.
[10:26 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: But in collection.
[10:26 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: You can go right to your Spirit List.
[10:27 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: And HIGH SCORES
[10:27 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: You can rematch Spirits right from your spirit list in collection.
[10:27 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: This is a very very good feature.
[10:28 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Alright how is this a "livestream" he just edited to the end of his match.
[10:28 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: There's a High Score Total across all of your thousands of spirits BUT there's no Global Smash Power associated with it.
[10:29 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Sakurai says Pauline's spirit battle was difficult for him.
[10:29 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: So apparently they have recorded footage associated with difficult Spirits with how to beat them.
[10:30 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: aka how to cheese Spirits
[10:30 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: This is most of the presentation now.
[10:31 AM] HeavyLobster: Do people really care about cheesing Spirits at this point?
[10:31 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Joker amiibo for Fall 2020.


Sakurai really is fascinated with the detail on Joker's amiibo.

[10:32 AM] HeavyLobster: I want a Min Min amiibo.
[10:33 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Sakurai bragging he got Vegeta to voice Captain Falcon for the trailer.
[10:33 AM] HeavyLobster: Nice
[10:34 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Sakurai says they voice-recorded Final Smash voice lines for Super Smash Bros. 64.
[10:34 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: And finally got to use them for Brawl.
[10:34 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Sakurai hopes coronavirus situation is better by the time this video airs.
[10:34 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Which it has, given that everyone can go protest freely without concern for their safety.
[10:35 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Sakurai says we can play games from our home.
[10:35 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Mentions nothing about improving the quality of Ultimate's online.
[10:35 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Ended.

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Masahiro Sakurai Min Min ARMS thanks for watching spring
Thanks for reading our reactions, too!

[10:36 AM] HeavyLobster: Yeah, not much in this. Not that I expected much. But I love Min Min and think she looks to be implemented well.
[10:38 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Really not looking forward to fighting her.
[10:38 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: Between her crazy range, her invincibility frames on her up-b, and... yeah.
[10:38 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: WELL.
[10:39 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: LOOKING FORWARD TO BUFFS AND NERFS NEXT WEEK, WHOOO.
[10:39 AM] Ludwig Von Koopa: BALANCE PATCH!



What do you think of Min Min and ARMS content entering Super Smash Bros. Ultimate? Do you share Ludwig's fears and pessimism and jealousy, or do you share Heavy Lobster's enthusiasm for staying true to her character? Are you happy that Vault Boy gave Mario a bomb? How about those amiibo? Did you want to see a tour of Masahiro Sakurai's house?


Here are the full details of version 8, including the balance patch.
The next DLC presentation is in October... with Steve from Minecraft.

7 comments :

  1. Well, Ludwig i am afraid of min min. I main bowser, and this is terrifying for me. I mean I also play corrin and Greninja but this limits things and I don't like it. Those amiibos are very cool I especially like the joker one! Min Min will be everywhere and it'll be honestly scary, but we will see when it gets released who is the best, and if jigglypuff can have the upper hand! Until then it's a guessing game.

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    1. By the way this is DarkDrago

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    2. Bowser is at the very least reasonably fast, which means he won't be as screwed as some other heavies. No idea how Ganon or Dedede would function against this. Then again, they already get wrecked by a lot of stuff already.

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    3. Joker is still gonna be the most used, lol

      The biggest question is how easily or not any given character will be able to approach Min Min. She can apparently make it hellish to get back on the ledge, but how good is her neutral?

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  2. Belated answer to something Heavy Lobster said: *I* care about cheesing Spirits. Seeing that strat for Pauline BLEW MY MIND.

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    1. Do you care about cheesing them yourself, or just watching others cheese them?

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    2. Myself. In fact, I've been replaying World of Light just lately. There's a good few Spirit Battles that I've had an easier time with like Victini--I don't know if that's down to updates or just that I actually used a powerful Spirit against them myself--but Pauline was still one I was clueless as to how to possibly beat.

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