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Tuesday, December 15, 2015

KoopaTV's FINAL Smash Direct Live Reactions!

By LUDWIG VON KOOPA - Taking you from start to finish in this journey by Sakurai.

Today is super-busy. There's the finals of the GameFAQs Best Game Ever tournament, where Undertale is dominating and it shouldn't. There are two Republican debates tonight, one going on right now as of publishing. (The one you care less about.)

Yet the most important (arguably?) of the events today? Masahiro Sakurai giving his final presentation ever on Super Smash Bros. For Wii U and Super Smash Bros. For 3DS. And let's not kid ourselves, it's mostly the first one.

I'm Nintendork 13 13 and the only other guy who talks is Vortexica. Kamek still exists, as the first line says. Just... in another world.

Uh, anyway.

Super Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot first place character
Which character was in the 1st Worldwide spot for the fighter ballot? ...Spoilers: Not Phoenix Wright.
 

Nintendork 13 13 4:54 pm
    I'M HERE
    (Kamek pasted two interesting things this morning, though his .gif is moreso.)
    http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/12-15-2015/

 Nintendork 13 13 4:56 pm
    (I wonder if he'll be around)
    Let's see...
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20_vote
    57.78% to 42.22%
    Ocarina of Time down by almost 20,000 votes.
    ...So I think the win condition here is that Sakurai or someone will ask people to go vote in the poll during the Smash Direct.
    OTHERWISE
    (I'm armed with a glass of milk here... that's already more than half empty.)

 Nintendork 13 13 4:59 pm
    (...no time to refill it...)
    .......how long is this gonna be?

 breezinabout@msn.com 4:59 pm
    Says approximately 33 mins.

 Nintendork 13 13 4:59 pm
    http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/12-15-2015/
    um
    this doesn't have a video window or anything

 breezinabout@msn.com 4:59 pm
    Oh...
    Mine does.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:00 pm
    ...should I try something else
    also when'd you get here
    quick youtube

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:00 pm
    IT'S STARTING

 Nintendork 13 13 5:00 pm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GsEjH8sRTk
    wtf it's Fire Emblem

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:00 pm
    Blech, Fire Emblem.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:00 pm
    am I
    watching
    the same video
    is this Smash

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:00 pm
    Yesh.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:00 pm
    ...is this part of the dir-..
    WHAT

 Nintendork 13 13 5:01 pm
    WHO THE HELL IS THIS
    CORRIN?
    "What are you DOING?!"

Corrin Super Smash Bros. Lucina Kirby Meta Knight
I don't really get it.



 breezinabout@msn.com 5:01 pm
    Yet more FE characters?
    Uhh...

 Nintendork 13 13 5:01 pm
    This guy doesn't even
    EXIST.
    um
    Is this a Robin clone
    There's a male and female version
    it uses a sword
    ...it turned into a dragon
    "Are those warriors of the outrealms?"
    I'm sick of this outrealms Fire Emblem shit
    Lucina clone?
    "Legendary heroes of smash"
    Is this the same thing as Roy
    ew Pac-Man


Corrin Super Smash Bros. Fire Embem Fates gender selection
No one has shoes. Probably has something to do with the special relationship between Fire Emblem and feet.



 breezinabout@msn.com 5:02 pm
    I wish I could collapse this darned chat window, but at least right now they're funny: "ANOTHER SWORD USER" "BOOOO" "THAT'S IT I'M KILLING MYSELF"

 Nintendork 13 13 5:02 pm
    Sakurai is there

 Nintendork 13 13 5:03 pm
    "Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates"
    dat barefoot shot

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:03 pm
    at least they weren't both left...

 Nintendork 13 13 5:03 pm
    Well, this is awful already!
    I don't think these characters have shoes.
    wtf his side-smash is LONGER THAN SHULK'S
    So this guy has HUGE range.
    Screw this guy I'm not buying this DLC.

Super Smash Bros. Final Direct Corrin side-b cancel
Pretty much the only part about Corrin I like is his opposition to the plumber.


 Nintendork 13 13 5:05 pm
    Why would you WANT to be stuck into the ground?
    WOAH
    He just pinned plumber
    and wrecked him
    His Down-B is a counter.
    ...because, uh, that's really typical by now.
    "No exclusive stage"
    But two additional music tracks for free if you buy the DLC on Wii U.
    To existing FE stages.
    No thanks!
    Dunno why you'd want to fight to this!

 Nintendork 13 13 5:07 pm
    ...I like that Yusuke Kozaki illustration though.
    Available Feb 2016
    $5
    Okay, here's what we're really interested in. Cloud.
    "Adding this character seemed all but impossible, but we made it happen."

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:08 pm
    FFVII battle theme!

 Nintendork 13 13 5:09 pm
    Too bad Melee beat FF7 in GameFAQs!
    Imagine if FF7 beat Melee and then beat Undertale and the finals was FF7 vs. OoT.
    This would be giving him a huge boost.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:09 pm
    Cloud has a Limit Gauge that's similar to Mac's KO punch.
    And his Down-B charges it.
    So Sakurai once said he didn't give Ike a projectile that he has in Fire Emblem because it'd make it OP.
    ...Cloud literally has this though.

Cloud Limit Charge Super Smash Bros. Down-B
LIMIT CHARGE


 Nintendork 13 13 5:12 pm
    "Cloud had to have this move, am I right" - Sakurai on Cloud's Omnislash Final Smash

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:12 pm
    Summon materia?!

 Nintendork 13 13 5:12 pm
    The monsters appear when you gather floating summon materia on the FF stage.
    That's awesome.

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:13 pm
    Okay, that's pretty rad.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:13 pm
    WOAH
    VILLAGER JUST GOT
    ...DESTROYED BY THE STAGE COMING BACK TOGETHER

 Nintendork 13 13 5:14 pm
    So basically it's like
    ...Final Smashes for everyone.
    YO
    CHALLENGER ARTWORK
    LINK VS. CLOUD

Cloud Strife challenger art Tetsuya Nomura Super Smash Bros.
This could've been the GameFAQs contest. But nope, Undertale.


 breezinabout@msn.com 5:15 pm
    Awesome.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:15 pm
    CLOUD AVAILABLE TODAY
    "high server demand"
    Cloud + stage is $6
    That's worth buying.
    Not that Corrin guy
    ANOTHER MII FIGHTER COST-
    ...
    AHH
    IT'S
    GENO

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:15 pm
    AHHHHHHHHHHH

 Nintendork 13 13 5:15 pm
    WITH SMRPG MUSIC

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:15 pm
    THE FOREST MUSHROOMS
    Oh...

 Nintendork 13 13 5:16 pm
    The final Mii fighter costumes
    Geno

Geno Mii Fighter Outfit Available!
He's shocked to be here.


 breezinabout@msn.com 5:16 pm
    It's just a costume. :-(

 Nintendork 13 13 5:16 pm
    Chocobo Hat (hat)
    Bionic Armor
    Takamaru
    hahaha

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:16 pm
    lol

 Nintendork 13 13 5:16 pm
    ASHLEY
    AHHHHHHHHHHH
  
    <33333333333
    who
    "Gil"
    TAILS
    FROM SONIC
    hjahahahahaaa
    Knuckles too.
    (poor Crono)
    (not in Smash again)
    smashbros.com will have QR codes for Mii fighters.
    So they look like the ones in their vids.
    LAST

 Nintendork 13 13 5:18 pm
    FIGHTER
    ANNOUNCEMENT
    TRAILER
    He's emphasising the word final
    ...
    It's Pit
    ??

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:18 pm
    Two down!

 Nintendork 13 13 5:18 pm
    Palutena talking to him
    A challenger approaches
    ...
    ....
    ................
    Bayo
    BAYONETTA?!?!
    "Bayonetta Gets Wicked!"
    (Team Naughty is going to win the Splatfest now, definitely!)
    .......
    YOO
    She's in Bayo 1 and Bayo 2 styles

Bayonetta Gets Wicked in Super Smash Bros
Bayonetta on Team Naughty. So am I!


 Nintendork 13 13 5:20 pm
    SMASH BALL
    ...
    Bayonetta was the  #1 in Europe
    In Top 5 in USA
    "Among the negotiable and realisable characters"
    She was #1 worldwide
    with that caveat.
    She's focused on doing a ton of combos.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:23 pm
    ...
    Wicked Weaves = Smash Attack
    yuuuuuuge
    "Witch Time" down special
    activates like a Counter
    makes opponent slowdown
    Only slows opponent you're counterin'.
    yo whaaaaat
    I'm
    ...She can cancel her dodge with a move is that what
    I heard
    "Taunts"
    CANCELABLE LONG TAUNT

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:25 pm
    lol, dancing Bayonetta.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:25 pm
    SHE'LL BE EVERYWHERE ONLINE
    You can only taunt twice + 1 more for every KO
    So this will get the most out of your taunt!
    ...her up-special s-...
    YO
    She can move out of it and use it again?!

combo
Super Smash Bros. Bayonetta combos
SO MANY COMBOS okay mid-air jump isn't a move but IT'S AFTER AN UP SPECIAL.


 Nintendork 13 13 5:28 pm
    ...
    I don't know what he was just saying
    "you'll see angels until you don't"
    Let's Dance Boys is a song in their stage. ^.^

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:29 pm
    That art is stunning.
    Like, wow.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:29 pm
    "The fight between light and dark" for that art.
    Targeting February 2016 for Bayonetta. $6 for her + stage
    "And now we have some news about amiibo"
    ROB (Famicom), Roy, Ryu.
    And confirm amiibo production for Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta.

Super Smash Bros. Final Direct Cloud Corrin Bayonetta group shot
Cloud, Cloud, Corrin, Corrin, Bayonetta, Bayonetta.


 breezinabout@msn.com 5:30 pm
    CLOUD AMIIBO HERE I COME

 Nintendork 13 13 5:30 pm
    (I told you there'd be Cloud amiibo!)

 Nintendork 13 13 5:31 pm
    58 total characters.
    84 total stages.
    99 pieces + 97 hats for Mii Fighters
    743, 707 trophies Wii U, 3DS
    507 total music tracks
    "Record high numbers for a competitive action game"
    "Development of download content was started after completing the game."
    "Thank you so much."
    dat Bayonetta ass shot
    "Thank you very much"

 Nintendork 13 13 5:33 pm
    YO HE JUST BLEW UP DUCK HUNT DOG
    WITH A BOB-OMB
    Capcom Co. LTD and Capcom USA get seperate credits.
    done
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWTNoGNWIAQ56Rz.jpg:large
    Here's the Bayonetta art.
    That's awesome.

Bayonetta light vs. dark Super Smash Bros.
Take your time.


 breezinabout@msn.com 5:36 pm
    Ya.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:37 pm
    ..The artwork is actually
    uh
    more awesome than anything else revealed.
    (That...doesn't sound good, does it?)

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:37 pm
    lol, just noticed that frying pan battle.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:37 pm
    Yeah, there's a lot of detail to take in.
    I like that Lucina and Samus are counterparts.
    And Shulk and ROB (going back to Shulk's whole anti-robot thing)

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:39 pm
    You might be right about the awesomeness of that trumping everything else.
    Like, I'd hang that on my wall.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:39 pm
    Yeah.
    My desktop wallpaper has been
    uh
    Little Mac's challenger art.
    So that's been there for like, nearly two years.
    Maybe replace with this?
    (Not sure how I feel about Bayonetta herself in the centre)
    (Obviously it's HER art...)

Masahiro Sakurai thank you very much bow
"Thank you very much."


 breezinabout@msn.com 5:45 pm
    So when's this debate on?

 Nintendork 13 13 5:45 pm
    oh
    uh
    75 minutes

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:45 pm
    Setting timer.

 Nintendork 13 13 5:45 pm
    Between
    uhhh
    http://www.koopatv.org/2015/09/2016-presidential-debate-schedules-and-coverage.html#R5
    We welcome: Lindsey Graham, George Pataki, Mike Huckabee, and Rick Santorum!
    I wrote "welcome" facetiously.
    So instead of Chris Christie and Bobby Jindal, we get ISIS-obsessor and... whatever Pataki is.
    Stay tuned, folks?!?

 breezinabout@msn.com 5:47 pm
    Pataki is STILL around?



...Guess The Legend of Zelda is screwed on GameFAQs. What did you think about the Super Smash Bros. final direct? Or KoopaTV's thoughts on it? Let KoopaTV and the world know.


Read KoopaTV's reactions to that debate here.
Development isn't actually done. There's still balance patches.

32 comments :

  1. I haven't gotten a Fire Emblem game since 8. The FE bias is really showing. If Sakurai is behind SSB5 I do not think I will get that game.

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    1. 6 Fire Emblem characters, and 2 Donkey Kong characters. How does that make sense?


      You owe it to yourself to play Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn.

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    2. Too salty about it leaving Advance Wars in the dust. Petty, I know.

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    3. You're really trying to convince me to like these games by spending real money on me. Well uh... as long as you don't try to convince me to like a certain game series I really despise, then okay.

      Also that paranoia about Nintendo giving up in Splatoon on Squidboards is really something just because Inklings did not get in. Would they even think this if there was no DLC at all? They should at least see if the number of years of no sequel is as long as Advance Wars. Also my Callie and Marie plushies are getting ready to be shipped at the time of this comment. Splatoon merch is actually getting made. How many Nintendo games that are not the usual suspects of Plumber Boy, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Donkey Kong if you consider that separate from Plumber Boy and Kirby and probably some other Nintendo game I am currently forgetting gets plushies, even of NPCs, along with many other memorabilia? I also have two out of either 5 or 6 Nintendo World Store Splatoon shirts and there are plushies based on other Splatoon characters as well as other merch that aren't plushies or shirts like keychains out. I also have the Splatoon artbook. How many Nintendo games will give you a whole book of concept art of Splatoon? I hope my complaining of yet another FE character does not make you think I am as paranoid as certain posters on that thread.

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    4. FE9 and FE10 are truly amazing and deserve all the references they get on this site. I should probably do more, since the Something Awful Fire Emblem thread visits KoopaTV every now-and-then to see if there's anything new with FE and KoopaTV. Wish they visited other articles.

      I have no idea what the hell is with Squidboards on this issue. Hope that the Inklings would be playable should've died with the Mii costumes.
      I don't really see the connection that Smash, which will have its post-release support end BEFORE Splatoon's ends, is CRITICAL in being a signal that Splatoon will become a franchise and not a one-off. How does that logic make sense?

      At least the Mii costumes for the Inklings gave you Splatoon trophies. That's a lot more than what buying other costumes will get you.

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    5. Isn't FE9 a Gamecube game? Either they need to remaster it like Wind Waker to get it on the eshop or Gamecube games will be made compatible for the Virtual Console. I would like to give Luigi's Mansion and Plumber Boy Sunshine a go even though I have a Wii somewhere and can hook it up to play Gamecube games. I already got my Wii U, PS3 and PS2 all hooked up. Could my Wii also fit without me having to pull wires every time? Or could be laziness. I also have an unfinished Pikmin 2 game (Gamecube version) that I really want to finish at some point. I never had the Gamecube when it first came out. I got Pikmin 1 with Wii Controls so I got used to that. It took forvever for Pikmin 2 with Wii controls to come out in NA and I gave up in ever getting it so I got the Gamecube version and it may have been hard for me to adjust to the controls. I also paid a bit over $40 for it. And then the Wii controls version came out shortly afterwards, grrrr... I never bought that version. Not sure if I should try to get back to the Gamecube version or wait for the Virtual Console version of Pikmin 2 with Wii controls.

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    6. Yeah, GCN games aren't on the VC. They theoretically could be!

      The reason I mentioned the VC is because buying an actual copy of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn for that matter is an expensive affair.

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    7. I finally unwatched that topic. It was tiring seeing the same arguments and defenses over and over again. I already moved on and accepted the final DLC characters. I still can't believe they think Splatoon is being abandoned. As someone rightfully pointed out Pikmin debuted in a previous gen and Olimar became a playable character in the gen later (Brawl). The same will most likely be done for Splatoon characters.

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    8. That thread should hopefully be dead now!

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    9. Looks like it is but I see some of the same people bringing their paranoia to other topics. Can't please them all.

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    10. They'll get over it when we see the January update happen.

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  2. So happy to see Bayonetta added! YEAH!!!!

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    1. ...
      I guess my obvious tier list is...

      Cloud > Bayonetta > Corrin

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    2. For me, Bayonetta > Cloud > Corrin

      I don't really care about Corrin. The other two, though, make me tempted to get out my copy of Smash Bros 3DS again.

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    3. I dunno, does anyone care about Corrin?

      Like, can anyone care about him?

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    4. Hmm. People who are really interested in the new Fire Emblem game, I guess? I at least saw some people defending him online.

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    5. People are defending him on the basis that he's not another Marth clone.

      I think that's the only defence here. Of all of the upcoming games to promote (and, really, you shouldn't be doing that) you pick Fire Emblem Fates after you did the same thing with Roy and Super Smash Bros. Melee with his unreleased game?

      OF COURSE Sakurai has this idiotic bias for Fire Emblem because no other series has such disproportionate representation and attention. And it's BASELESS attention, too.

      At least Smash Run being infested with Kid Icarus: Uprising stuff can be explained by "it's the easiest option since those assets are importable."

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    6. True, that's the argument I've seen.

      Don't people really love the Fire Emblem series, though?

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    7. Uh...... The FE series is basically split in half.

      Pre-Awakening fans and post-Awakening fans. I fall in the former. The former is being abandoned.

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    8. So Awakening is very different than the others?

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    9. Absolutely.

      Awakening is much more casualised and basic because its philosophy was "you can complete any chapter in 15 minutes because that's the portable way". Meanwhile, the other games had these epic battles.

      Awakening noticeably has a lot of "tell" instead of "show" and is very weak on story. There are many instances where characters are chatting and it suddenly jumps to the new map without any semblance of why there's a fight and who you're fighting and what the point is.
      Meanwhile, story was why you'd play the games before.

      Awakening also has the avatar unit (who you'd know as Robin) and the game heavily encourages you to get married, hence "Waifu Emblem". The story also centralises around Robin to the detriment of characterisation of other people. And of course you're an amnesiac who becomes friends with everyone.

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    10. "the portable way"? Ah, so it was afflicted by the same curse that struck down Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon... *sigh*

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    11. Yeah, but that didn't feature Greenie making out with female Boos.

      There have been previous Fire Emblem games on the GBA, but they didn't dumb themselves down.

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    12. Yeah- No. He was the best choice because please list me another series that was about to die but to the sudden increase in sales on the planned to be last game they continued on, oh wait can't name any? Also Corrin is able to manipulate and replace his limbs for a bit something no character was able to do. Fire Emblem would've ended up just like F-Zero and Earthbound if it wasn't for the Smash Bros. Fire Emblem deserves this second chance, something that unfortunately too many series to count didn't get. It shouldn't be ripped away from it's hands because you didn't get what YOU want. Also thanks to the extra push Fates is selling well.

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    13. ...What?

      Well, first of all, feel free to look at my formal thoughts on Corrin and the other DLC characters. You can see how much I care about Corrin's limbs there. (Spoiler: I don't.) http://www.koopatv.org/2016/02/ssb4-DLC-fighters-opinion-tiers.html

      Okay, no. So, Corrin was the best choice for a new DLC character in Super Smash Bros. 4 because Fire Emblem as a series would die if it were not for Fire Emblem Awakening?

      How does that make any sense?

      I really do not understand how that is logical. “Because Nintendo has a series that was going to die but didn't, it deserves SIX playable characters in Super Smash Bros.!”

      I mean, that's as non-sequitur as it gets.

      (I don't particularly want Fire Emblem Fates to sell, you know. Doesn't benefit me any.)

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    14. Well I don't care. I'm just saying that makes him unique. Corrin obviously was a good choice. Fire Emblem Awakening may have sold well but it was due to Robin's and Lucina's inclusion so it's only fair to give the series another rep for the newer title. It does make sense you're just too blind to realize it and you removing my comment proves it. Salty fuck. It is logical because Marth and Ike, duh. Robin to represent Awakening. Lucina is literally Marth with a VA, she was lucky she shouldn't count as her own character anyway. Roy has the Melee Guy title on him. Corrin to represent Fates to make sure that it sells well. I don't care if you don't want it to the point is thanks to the extra push it sold much better. Smash is not a popularity contest. If so characters like Captain Falcon would be cut.

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    15. Wait, first of all...
      ...Your comment is literally right there. Right above my comment. Don't accuse me of removing your comment when it's literally right above my response to your comment.

      It is visually unique, but it's not functionally unique. There literally is no difference, in terms of function, if Corrin just held a long spear the entire time. His dragon-limbs work the same way as any other disjointed hitbox.

      Fire Emblem: Awakening came out in 2012, and Robin and Lucina were announced for Super Smash Bros. 4 in 2014. By 2014, Fire Emblem Awakening had already sold well. Nothing to do with Super Smash Bros.. Besides, Ike being in Super Smash Bros. Brawl apparently didn't help sell Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn, though I wish it did.

      It still makes no sense that Fire Emblem specifically gets a new character because there continue to be more games released in that series. Why does Yoshi only have himself from his series despite Yoshi's Woolly World being a new title released after? Why not have a chibi Galactic Federation soldier for Metroid Prime: Federation Force? Hey, the Donkey Kong Country series nearly died after Donkey Kong Country 3 and then came back with AMAZING, high-selling games with Donkey Kong Country Returns and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. Doesn't that series deserve more?

      Captain Falcon is one of the most popular characters in Super Smash Bros., though that's entirely due to how he's represented in that series and not from his own game.

      Being in Super Smash Bros. alone doesn't make your series a best-seller. Again, look at F-Zero or Metroid or Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance. It sure can help, and I've made that argument before, but it's impossible to point to Corrin and say, “He's the reason that Fates sold XXX more copies!”

      Don't tell me that Lucina doesn't deserve to even be counted as her own character. She's one of six Fire Emblem characters, and that's a fact. She's on the character select screen. Plus, she would represent Awakening too if it was just her without Robin. Plumber-in-a-doctor-outfit and Mewtwo count enough as Melee Guy and that's no excuse that Roy needed to come back, either.

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    16. WOW that is arrogant. Corrin is much more unique than your average FE character. He has a projectile with a hitbox after, range in both side special and side smash. He's overall a different feeling of a character.

      Still, it needs that extra push just so it actually sells well.

      Donkey Kong? HELL NO. That series is fine. Maybe Dixie in a future game but that's it. DK is iconic as shit. Something that FE doesn't really have. Federate Force wasn't coming around the block like Fates was so no.

      Exactly. Captain Falcon's only cared about because of his inclusion in Smash.

      But that's when you're wrong once more. Captain Falcon still happens to be remembered because of his INCLUSION IN SMASH. Even if his series is dead. That didn't sell well because no one was interested in your overall racing game that never got a new one. Fates got packed with new content and some old faces as DLC. Along with lowering the difficulty a lot as an option to please more crowds and I find it successful. F-Zero and Earthbound just didn't get the chance to redeem themselves. The spot of redemption shouldn't go to an already popular series. That's unfair.

      I'm saying she shouldn't but whatever, it's not like they are all clones. Marth is the start of the trend, Ike is a heavy hitter swordfighter, Robin is a mix between magic and swordplay with a limit, Corrin can turn into a dragon for his whole moveset nuff said, Roy is a reverse Marth which I consider unique enough, Lucina is the only direct clone. 2/6 are clones if not 1/6. Dr. Mario was an alt with luck to get a slot. He doesn't represent Melee. Mewtwo was just the overall favorite cut fighter in general. It makes sense why he doesn't have Melee guy title slapped on him. He's known outside of Melee, something Roy unfortunately doesn't have. He's only known due to his inclusion in Melee thus the Melee Guy title slapped on him.

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    17. I'm getting so triggered. That is very unfair to dismiss Corrin as if he's another Marth clone.

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    18. I wasn't saying Corrin was another Marth clone, but I was saying the properties of his disjointed hitboxes are not different because they represent dragon limbs and not a big sword.
      Yes, he is more unique than the average Fire Emblem character. I still disagree he was the best choice.

      The Donkey Kong series got the worst representation proportional to its iconic-ness and worthiness out of any series in Super Smash Bros. 4. The majority of its music are all remixes of one theme. It got one stage per system, with one of those being from a previous game. It didn't get new characters despite getting highly successful games. And, hey, the DK Rap got truncated. That can't help.

      You're working under the false assumption that whoever was in Corrin's spot HAD to be in a game that would be released right around the time the DLC would be. It certainly didn't have to be that case. That was Sakurai's thinking, but he could've thought differently.

      So some people's series are dead, yet you say only Fire Emblem gets a character because it already "redeemed" itself? Instead of using the power of Super Smash Bros. to be the force that redeems? You say it shouldn't go to an already popular series, but Fire Emblem, with one game (Awakening) has jettisoned itself to "already popular series" status.

      After all, even Masahiro Sakurai wonders what happened to Captain Falcon. A new F-Zero could easily have new content and do a lot of new things.

      (It's that lowering the difficulty, casualisation, and added creepy waifu stuff that makes me detest Fates and everything it stands for.)

      Anyway, you don't need a "Melee Guy" character anyway.

      dat triggering

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    19. Still I would rather not the spot wasted on an DK character.

      Bullshit! Federate Force is even more hated than Corrin yet a character from that game should've gone in instead? No. Get out.

      Awakening doesn't mean everything, it was planned to be the last game anyways so this should get it's chance like I said.

      Yet F-Zero was abandoned. Not Sakurai's fault.

      Feel free to hate all you want, Corrin is still going places and your precious King K Rool and whatnot isn't.

      Of course you're going to say that because it's Roy. If you want possible good characters cut just because of Roy then you need a reality check.

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